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Mali ([personal profile] malachiical) wrote2021-01-26 01:36 am

Id Pro Quo Letter 2021!

Hello, IPQ creator! Thank you for writing for me! I'm Mal or Mali (malachiical @ AO3 as well); I'll try to keep each individual section of this letter brief, and you should be able to skip to wherever you like with anchor links and/or just expand the parts relevant to you via cut. I hope our ids align and you have a blast writing, because I'm definitely looking forward to whatever you come up with!

General DNWs
General Likes
Porn Likes
Crossover Fandom - Otto Octavius (Marvel 616)/Peter Benjamin Parker (Into the Spider-Verse)
Gotham High (Blog Post) - Jonathan Crane/Edward Nigma
Marvel 616 - Nathan Lubensky/Adrian Toomes
Marvel 616 - Quentin Beck/J. Jonah Jameson
Marvel 616 - Otto Octavius/Peter Parker
The Spectacular Spider-Man (Cartoon) - Chameleon/J. Jonah Jameson
The Spectacular Spider-Man (Cartoon) - Otto Octavius/Adrian Toomes
The Spectacular Spider-Man (Cartoon) - Otto Octavius/Peter Parker
The Spectacular Spider-Man (Cartoon) - Quentin Beck/Phineas Mason
The Spectacular Spider-Man (Cartoon) - Quentin Beck/Chameleon/Phineas Mason

General DNWs
-incest
-noncon/dubcon
-underage, unless otherwise stated
-gore, permanent injury, character death, unless otherwise stated
-infidelity
-halves of the pair feeling like they really just don't like or care about each other at all (even with more complicated stuff I am a BIG SOPPY ROMANTIC)
-the pairing having sexualities that mean they aren't attracted to one another
-being ashamed of or hating one's body; even for trans stuff, if you write it, just no focus on dysphoria please
-unrequested AUs
-unrequested identity headcanons
-unrequested noncanon ships (background canon ships that don't break up the requested pairing are fine!)
-unrequested poly
-unnecessary use of safewords or stoplight symbols
-feederism, weight gain, inflation, pregnancy
-scat, watersports, vomit (mentions of someone throwing up not in a kink context are fine), vore, bestiality, choking/breathplay, somnophilia, mommy- or daddykink, 24/7 D/S (unless otherwise mentioned)

General Likes
-fluff, snapshot moments of what's going on in their lives
-romantic tension, UST that eventually becomes resolved
-flirting, confident or awkward or just fuckin disastrous
-extreme loyalty
-redemption arcs, gray morality, general complexity, lighter takes on villains & villain redemption
-hurt/comfort
-happy or at least hopeful/somewhat upbeat endings
-first times and milestones (sexual or non, doesn’t even have to be overly romantic, stuff like taking a photo for the first time together or and the like is also good!)
-descriptions of making out tbh
-trans headcanons where it’s not A Thing in the fic, no coming out or explanations necessary, or it's just accepted and not super dwelled on unless the prompt is about self-exploration. no Having To Deal With Bigotry or issuefic or anything, just character(s) happen(s) to be trans (both same gender/pronouns as in canon and different gender/pronouns are fine; interpreting nonhuman characters as being ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ about human gender is always fun)
-rule 63/genderswap in general tbh? especially if it results in f/f, but m/f is also fine and i also do not mind Aunt May being genderswapped to Uncle Mayhew/Matthew/whatever if other genderswaps are going on, have fun
-canon divergent AUs, change one thing about a canon and maybe other things happen differently
-art treats always welcome!

Porn Likes
-piv in trans smut is fine but alternatives are also loved; prefer for vagina to be called vagina, cunt, or pussy, or to be referred to vaguely, not "hole"; prefer for ass not to be called a vagina; fine with clit being called clit or penis/cock/dick, fine with penis being called penis/cock/dick or clit
-first times and milestones
-frot, scissoring, intercrural, grinding against ass, basically all that stuff
-handjobs, fingerjobs, oral
-romantic smut, lots of touching, focus on touching/wanting to touch and sensations and body parts, loving descriptions of partner's body (description of both stereotypically attractive and not stereotypically attractive features welcome so long as they're INTO it!), kissing during sex, hand-holding during sex, eye contact during sex, all that stuff!
-clothed sex, partially clothed sex, and clothing kink!
-inexperience, awkward, clumsy but eager and enjoyable sex
-BDSM tones, mild or more formal
-praise kink and instructions/requests/begging flavors of dirty talk
-manhandling, hair pulling, love bites and scratches, rough but not outright painful sex
-orgasm delay (though not total denial), edging
-alternately, multiple orgasms, "forced" orgasms
-xeno genitalia, if you have literally any excuse to go for xeno just go for it
-characters having "both sets" of genitalia is good too, whether it sort of makes anatomical sense (vagina and a penis where the clit would be) or not (where would testicles go? how would a penis and clit setup work? who cares just handwave it) it's totally fine!
-smut is always welcome!

Crossover Fandom
Otto Octavius (Marvel 616)/Peter Benjamin Parker (Into the Spider-Verse)

Canon Source:
Read Comic Online
[Most Pertinent Issues:
Doctor Octopus in general - The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) Issue #3 (first Doctor Octopus issue), Spider-Man/Doctor Octopus: Year One (rewritten Doctor Octopus origin story)
Doctor Octopus in Peter Parker's body as Spider-Man - Superior Spider-Man: The Complete Collection (and Avenging Spider-Man Issue #15.1 after the first TPB of Superior)
Doctor Octopus in Peter Parker's body for the second time as Elliot Tolliver - The Amazing Spider-Man (2015) Issue #800, Superior Octopus, and Superior Spider-Man (2019)]
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Okay, so I loved Into the Spider-Verse and I loved there being a movie exploring all of these different universe Spider-Men (Spider-Mans? Spiders-Men?) meeting, and Spider-Noir kind of stole my heart. I was also delighted in a lot of ways by the arc in the comics where Otto Octavius wound up stealing Peter Parker's body and deciding to be a better Peter Parker and a better Spider-Man than the real Peter had ever been, and was intrigued when he wound up redeemed and even eventually accepted by the real Spider-Man after that whole thing was over. So the more I think about Into the Spider-Verse and things I'd love to see in a sequel or spinoff series or anything of the kind, the more my brain insists that a Spider-Man/"Peter Parker" showing up who unexpectedly turns out to be Otto Octavius would be incredibly cool...

Which just made me start shipping these two. Not only do I have a character bias towards the both of them, I also think it's interesting how they're significantly different from the ...versions of each other they know from their own universes. I imagine full-of-Nazis exaggerated gritty Noir-verse Doctor Octopus is very different from any other Ock, and probably not too redeemable, and Spider-Noir's quipping is very different (if it can even be called "quipping" in the same way) and he comes across as a parody of the noir genre more than anything while ICly being very sincere.

Requested Tags

  • Aftermath of Bodyswap - Existential Crisis
Whether you want to set this while Ock is in Peter Parker's body the first time around (with all of Peter Parker's memories for the first time and with Peter basically also in his head), for the second time (still with all the memories and now trying to be an entirely different person, Elliot Tolliver), or somehow after he gets his own body back (set in a story that takes place after an assumed adventure with the Spider-Gang, perhaps?), I feel like there's a lot of fun potential here! Otto has been Peter and has been Elliot and has gone from one body to another and has had his mind not his own and seems to be constantly trying to remake himself lately. Could Noir help him out with this, could he relate a little, or could he just be there while Ock figures it out?

  • Body Swap - villain in hero’s body meets alternate universe version(s) of hero
  • Dimension travel - meeting alternate versions of self/friends/antagonists
  • Villain undercover as a good guy; grows to care about good guys leading to heel-face turn
Obviously for all of these you're welcome to use Miles, Peter B., Gwen, Peni, and/or Spider-Ham, or even other versions of Spider-Man from various universes (if the Spider-Verse stuff is happening for a second time it'd make sense!). It'd be cool to see! You're obviously welcome to just do scenes with these two, though, or just have one of them drop into the other's universe (feel free to make things up for Noir's universe and the people in it). And just in general feel free to do cool Spidey-adventures in here, too, and/or have them working on a way to get things back to normal/get back to their own worlds!

  • Identity Porn - Identity Reveal
This works well with the above set of meeting alternate(s)! I really do like the idea of Otto not being fully forthcoming about his true identity at first in a situation where he's meeting a Spider-Man (or group of them) from another universe. How might the truth come out? How might the other(s) deal with it? Would he have to prove himself, or would Noir (or any/all of the others) decide he's proven himself already?

  • conflicted horny feelings towards an alternative version of your enemy
  • conflicted horny feelings towards an alternative version of yourself
Okay, I kind of had to put both of these because identity is kind of weird here, especially if Noir doesn't know who Otto really is while he has conflicted horny feelings or if Otto is internally identifying a little too much as Peter Parker Spider-Man. Or maybe Otto is just conflicted about being attracted to a version of his old enemy, and/or he's been forthcoming about his identity (or the truth has come out) and Noir is conflicted about his own attraction. This seems like it could go in the direction of Really Charged Smut, but it could obviously have a lower rating.

  • Sex while body-swapped
There are at least four ways that this tag could be read: with the body-swap in question "just" being Otto in his own Spider-Man's body like in canon, an extra layer of body-swap with Ock being in Noir's body and Noir being in 616 Peter Parker's body since Ock had been in that body (maybe this is even happening to all the Spider-Gang?), with Ock in Noir's body and Noir in Ock's actual body somehow (maybe again "after an assumed adventure with the Spider-Gang" after Ock's gotten his body back and it wasn't actually his idea to end up in a Spider-Man body again this time?), or with Ock in 616 Peter Parker's body and Noir in the body of the Otto Octavius of his own universe (maybe Noirverse Ock tried a body-swap plan himself?). There are probably more options, even. I am here for all of them. Just fuck me up.

  • Undercover - Reformed former bad guy has to go undercover as a bad guy
Whether Otto's reformed due to comics events or has gotten attached to the Spider-Verse Spiders (on-page or off)... Does he convince other villains from various universes that he is indeed Doctor Octopus in Spider-Man's body and pretend to join them? (Maybe including Olivia Octavius, if you want to use her!) Or, again, has he gotten his own body back? How does he feel about their plans now that he's changed so much? How unnerving/dangerous is the situation for him? This also seems like a great excuse to do shit like having him blow his cover by rescuing Noir (or one of the others), and/or having Noir have to rescue him, and/or putting him in a position where he has to injure or torture or pretend to torture Noir despite being attached to him in order to keep his cover, and/or let Noir pretend to take him out so that he can stop or sabotage the villains' plans...

Canon-Specific DNWs
-616!Doctor Octopus being presented as irredeemably crazy/evil

Canon-Specific Likes
-the "you're like me" spidey-sense indicator!
-how hard Spider-Ock tries and the weird existential shit going on there
-if you wanted to try, descriptions of the cool art style things Into the Spider-Verse does could be very neat
-if you're interested, I like trans headcanons of any of these characters, especially Doc Ock; I quite like Ock as nonbinary with any birth designation but trans man or trans woman are fine if you'd rather; for Noir I can especially see trans man but nonbinary or trans woman are also good. (more minor Spideys being trans are also acceptable, though if you go that route I'd rather Gwen be a trans girl!) and of course trans headcanons aren't obligatory!

Gotham High (Blog Post)
Jonathan Crane/Edward Nigma

Canon Source:
I made a post about it!

I just can't get over high school supervillains Edward "the incredibly intelligent nerdball" Nigma aka the Riddler and Jonathan "the hipster" Crane aka Scarecrow. Eddie with his suspenders and high rise pants and thick glasses and freckles and know it all expression and fuckin tie when there's no school uniform and dorky-ass socks, and Jon with his fingerless burlap gloves and eyeliner and barbell earrings and goatee and FUCKING NOOSE. You just know they are two of the most annoying students at the entire school in their different terrible ways. And I love that the conceit of the canon really allows for leaning into the characters being stereotypical terrible high schoolers while also being like, oh yeah, they are also absolutely already potentially deadly supervillains! (Though you are also welcome to make them less deadly and act like the canon is more low-stakes; it's not like it exists!)

Some possibly interesting general questions: Who are they friends with? (Eddie seems to be friends with Oswald Cobblepot, potentially, and I get weird vibes that Jon is dangerous catty friends with Selina Kyle, but feel free to deviate from that!) How do they get along? Do they respect each others' intelligence at all? What do they judge each other for (because you know that is probably happening)? How do they feel about the school? What are their home lives like? (Feel free to take inspiration from pre-nu-52 comics canon or deviate as much as you like!) Do they have mutual enemies (well, besides Batman)? Do they get along better as students or supervillains, and do they know one another's double identities or not? Did they tell each other or figure it out? What kinds of trouble have they made for the school, together or separately? Who would they work together with to bring down the Bat? What are their skills, costumes, types of crime?

I could easily see them being anything from mostly strangers who are annoyed by each other to friends who kinda annoy each other (maybe on purpose) to friends who have a bond through recognizing each others shitty home-life situations but NEVER talk about it, tbh. Go nuts.

Requested Tags

  • Bed Sharing Justified As It Just Being Practical
  • Sharing a bed while mutually pining
Why are they sharing a bed? Is it a class trip situation where they're staying in a hotel? Is one of them over at the other's house for some reason? Are they both out of their houses and somewhere at a third location (friend's spare room, a mattress or I WILL COUNT A SLEEPING BAG in a tent or treehouse or back of a pickup truck somewhere)? I love bedsharing so much when there's also a lot of UST or feelings tension there already, so feel free to lean into that! Smut welcome but definitely not required.

  • Character A thinks they're about to die and kisses Character B (and then oh no they live)
  • Passionate first kiss after near-death experience
  • pressed against each other while hiding from enemies; physical contact feels excruciatingly intense
Hugely shippy dangerous situations! Playing deadly supervillain games when you're like sixteen and probably think it's cool is so dumb. I love the idea of them getting in over their heads, I love fucking dramatic kisses before or after near-death scenarios where they somehow feel like this is the best idea, I love hiding from enemies while really, really close and filled with UST. Who or what is about to kill them/trying to kill them/do they think is trying (maybe not Batman)? Who or what are they hiding from (could be Batman).

  • Characters Team Up To Investigate Something Paranormal/Supernatural
I kind of love this just because of how associated with spooky shit Scarecrow is. Does Jon believe it's real and Eddie think paranormal stuff is a load of shit? Do both of them think it's bullshit and are both vocal about proving it maybe for different reasons? Do they both think it's bullshit but Jon insists it's real/pretends he believes in it? Whatever the case, do they get along usually at all, are they already friendly, do they get on each others nerves, is this maybe even the first time they really interact outside of class? Feel free to include another character or two in the team-up so long as Jon/Eddie is a thing!

  • Fast Food Date
  • A ostensibly is there to help B; A is much more focused on holding B's attention at all times
  • Pining - metaphoric pigtail pulling to get the attention of the person you're pining for
  • Pining - Unwilling to admit pining for fear of ruining existing relationship
  • Rivals to Lovers
  • Ship gets so into bantering with each other that it annoys everyone around them
  • Sex doesn't have to be great to be fun for all parties involved
  • Two characters with limited relationship experience date each other and figure things out
This huge tag batch is just general dating, flirting, and sex tropes. Fast food dates are casual and cheap and perfect for things they maybe aren't even willing to call dates out loud, or if it's maybe a date yeah but neither of them are saying it's serious, or maybe it's a date but they're fucking broke. You cannot tell me that in "A ostensibly is there to help B; A is much more focused on holding B's attention at all times," A isn't 100% Eddie. I'd say the first pining tag is 100% Eddie too, but let's face it, Jon might be just as immature in that sense in this "canon." The second pining just seems to be a pretty normal teenager experience with anyone you've got a decent friendship with. For "Rivals to Lovers," are Jon and Eddie rivals somehow, or are Scarecrow and the Riddler? Enjoying "annoyed" bantering while legitimately annoying everyone around them just seems perfect, and as for the sex and date prompts, you can't tell me either of these two would have experience with either of those things. They're disasters. Let 'em enjoy it anyway.

  • Hurt/Comfort - comfort focusing on little hurt because the big hurt is massive and unapproachable
  • Hurt/Comfort: Awkward Comfort
Honestly, the first of these works really well with... bigger sources of angst, potentially from at least one of them being in situations semi-inspired by their comics backstories. Just never, ever talking about parental abuse while having some H/C moments about much smaller things comparatively with everything unsaid just lurking in the background. (Or even not much smaller! One of their arms getting broken by Batman or another Rogue could cause a very bad response that isn't even mostly about that!) Even not touching that stuff, though, canonically we see Eddie getting bullied and if that's a common thing that could count. As for the second tag, just in general this could work for emotional and/or physical hurt which could stem from a lot of shit, and I love the idea of neither of them being any good at it but trying anyway. Either or both of them are welcome to be hurt, either or both of them are welcome to be the one comforting.

  • Journey of gay/queer self-discovery
  • Pining - A interprets B’s internalized homophobia as lack of interest (before porny happy ending)
Teens at a shitty high school is really one of the perfect settings for gay/queer self-discovery, really! It's a great time to ...definitely a time to realize you're not straight! And if you wanted to go with any trans headcanons, dressing up in costumes for the first time and creating a new persona can also be a pretty good kickstarter for trans feels. As for the pining prompt, due to some elements of comics-Scarecrow's backstory, Jon was the first one I imagined having internalized homophobia, but you're free to go with either of them for that! (Maybe Jon is openly not straight and Eddie thinks he is far too smart to have internalized any shit from his father but oops he definitely has some self-loathing issues to work through...)

  • Pining - Character A pines for disguised B without realising it's B
  • Sudden Realization - Oh No They're Hot
I think of these two tags as HOT SUPERVILLAIN PERSONAS tags! I can see the Riddler having better style than and at least a somewhat different type of cockiness to Eddie (maybe more smooth and bombastic?), and Scarecrow presenting himself VERY differently to Jon in attitude and approach and voice. For the pining tag, I'm happy with either of them being the one pining (or you making it mutual!); how do they get along outside of costume? There could be major differences there! For the sudden realization tag, they may or may not realize exactly who it is in the costume; if they do know then it has an added element of "oh no you were NOT this hot when you were just my annoying/pathetic/insignificant/normal/whatever classmate, what the fuck."

Canon-Specific DNWs
-Post-Nu52 backstories, particularly Scarecrow's
-Scarecrow being portrayed as a different personality to Jonathan Crane
-if you use any trans headcanons, violent transphobia, including either being abused at home due to being trans; them keeping it a secret from their families due to not wanting to deal with shit/already being abused is fine

Canon-Specific Likes
-go ahead and include any background ships you like, including poly if you feel like it! just no poly for Jon/Eddie
-I honestly do like Ozzie being one of Eddie's closest friends if not his very closest, and Jon and Selina being good friends (even if it's "in their own way"), and could enjoy Eddie and Barbara being on surprisingly good terms and/or Jon and Harleen being good friends! friendships between side characters are also up to you!
-I LOVE NICKNAMES AND PET NAMES and supercriminal names feeling "more real" or feeling like nicknames or there being an intimacy to letting someone call you by your real name in costume or, conversely, by your supervillain name out of costume... I can also obviously see Edward going by Eddie and Jonathan letting his friends call him Jon (though maybe not going by it with most people; you can decide that!), and could also see Eddie calling him Jonny/Jonnie whether he likes it or not tbh
-if you're interested, I like trans headcanons for any of the characters tbh; I quite like nonbinary Jon, but trans boy or trans girl are totally fine with me (though trans boy might not be as likely if his home life is shit), and I could equally see Eddie as nonbinary, trans girl, or trans boy (though ditto about his home life); and of course trans headcanons aren't obligatory!

Marvel 616
Nathan Lubensky/Adrian Toomes

Canon Source:
Read Comic Online
[Most Pertinent Issues:
Lead-up to meeting - The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) Issue #2 (first Vulture issue), Untold Tales of Spider-Man Issue #20 (interesting redemption-ish moment for Vulture), The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) Issues #240-241 (Vulture's backstory in more depth), The Spectacular Spider-Man (1976) Issues #44-45 (Vulture losing his nephew and how he ended up in the hospital)
Their relationship - The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) Issue #224, Web of Spider-Man (1985) Issue #3
Nathan dying - The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) Issues #334-336
Vulture torn up after Nathan's death - The Spectacular Spider-Man (1976) Issues #186-188
If you want to do clone stuff - The Clone Conspiracy #4, The Amazing Spider-Man (2015) Issue #23, The Clone Conspiracy #5]

I'll keep this short; if you want to see way more rambling thoughts from me on these two, you can check out the Marvel (Comics) section of my last Chocolate Box letter.

Mostly, though, Adrian Toomes and Nathan Lubensky are entirely too iddy for me. Vulture is a fucked up criminal who doesn't mind murdering people to get what he wants, and when he's at his lowest, a totally ordinary, good man reaches out to him in friendship and in kindness and he just... falls completely in love, I can't interpret it any other way. Nathan gives Adrian a new lease on life, and when Spider-Man tracks Vulture down (because of course Adrian's also been crime spreeing it up) Vulture reaches for someone to hostage and: "Eh? N-Nathan? I didn't know that I'd grabbed you! I just reached for the closest warm body. You... gave me my life back. How can I hurt you?" At some point "off-screen" Vulture reaches out to Nathan and asks him to be his partner in crime!

And then, canonically, it ends tragically. Nathan develops heart problems that get much worse, and when he bets on a man's life to try to leave May some money when he dies, he winds up getting grabbed by the Vulture again (who doesn't realize who he is) and having a heart attack. And then Vulture spends multiple issues, while dying himself, just desperate to earn May's forgiveness because being responsible for Nathan dying is tearing him up: "Nathan was my friend! I cared about him! I really cared! Your aunt has to know that I never... never... would've laid a hand on him that day if I'd realized who he was!" (With Peter's thought after that being "I know what it's like to feel responsible for the death of someone you love...")

Adrian is so clearly a ruthless murderer who doesn't really know how to approach this reasonably at all, but that makes it even more interesting to me that he's so legitimately desperately attached to Nathan and torn up over his death. I really love that this supervillain who is legitimately Kinda Fucked Up also sincerely cares about and is dedicated to just... this normal, decent man who believed in him and showed him kindness one (1) time when he desperately needed it. (A normal decent man who is, admittedly, willing to bet on the murder of a rich jackass when desperate, which also makes the dynamic of the two more interesting to me.)

Requested Tags

  • Alternate Universe - Canonically dead character lives
  • Hurt/Comfort - A confesses their love after B nearly dies
  • A is dead; B will not stand for this
There are a lot of ways to handle Nathan's canonical death, and these tags cover some iddy possibilities for those! AU where neither of them get deathly ill (all kinds of stories could go into this one! including basically all tags below!), one where Nathan gets sick but gets a handwavey cure somehow and never went to the place where he ended up getting killed, one where Nathan survived the fall and Adrian is wracked with guilt apologizing to him directly, or AU where Nathan did indeed die and Adrian goes to great lengths to bring him back to life. (I would prefer for this to succeed. Honestly I'd prefer for the story to have neither of them sick or dying by the end of it.) I would count an AU taking place where Nathan's clone survived and he ends up getting helped by Adrian (maybe because he doesn't want to trouble or upset May?) for the "Canonically dead character lives" tag, too. And finally, I'd like to note that if you choose to bring Nathan back to life as a younger man, you are welcome to use the weird Hot Young Vulture stuff from the comics to put them around the same age.

  • Character draws negative attention onto themself to protect another
  • A is injured B goes berserk
  • My Moral Compass Is "What Do I Need To Do To Protect You?"
  • Unexpected rescue followed by tenderly patching up wounds for them
This batch of tags is basically what I think of as "Vulture being insanely protective of Nathan" but some of them could absolutely work the other way around. Does Vulture draw negative attention to protect Nathan, or does Nathan draw attention to protect Adrian (whether or not he even knows he's the Vulture)? Which of them rescues and tenderly patches up the other? Adrian would absolutely be the one going berserk if any other criminal hurt Nathan, I'll be real, and Adrian is also blatantly the one who is borrowing a moral compass wholesale from Nathan. That's fine! There's nothing worrying about that! (Again, I prefer happy endings rather than ones where either is dead or dying.)

  • Dangerous morally grey person utterly loyal to person they see as good and kind
  • Finger kisses in a scene that wasn't sexual up to that point
  • Gestures of loyalty performed in private
  • Loyalty Kink: Gestures of loyalty performed in private
  • Villain compromises own plan because they love one (1) person
THE LOYALTY KINK TAG BATCH. I don't have much to say about these, other than restating the general fact that I love someone as dangerous and at least slightly amoral as the Vulture being super, super loyal to a totally ordinary decent person. Otherwise a lot of these are prompts in their own right. Maybe Vulture is just utterly willing to redirect his priorities if Nathan needs or wants him to... And/or maybe Nathan has to explore that fact and figure out how he feels about it! Does Nathan tell him not to harm anyone? Or does Vulture start not killing or harming people because he knows Nathan wouldn't want him to even without being told? Both dynamics are good! Or just go full loyalty kink, getting very UST with unspoken attraction and feelings there, or maybe spoken attraction/feelings. Maybe outright loyalty kink smut. Go for it.

  • D/s - under-negotiated or unnegotiated but mutually enjoyed dynamic
  • Pining - Mutual pining that both characters figure out is requited but that's terrifying
  • Praise Kink
  • Villain's morality pet metaphorically keeps villain on leash; both unexpectedly find this kinky/hot
Here's a batch that's almost just fully kink. Can include sex or just playing in a "this is a sexual encounter but nothing's actually happening and we're not talking about it" space. This is for loyalty kink with orders that verges right into D/s territory, for either Adrian letting Nathan know exactly how highly he thinks of him or Nathan completely overwhelming Adrian with praise and positive reinforcement... The pining prompt might not even be sexual but it might be! Either way the sheer amount of emotion and the strangeness of the whole "deadly supervillain and good civilian" might leave them both a bit afraid of the truth of what they're feeling! Or just go for outright smut with under-negotiated D/s and/or praise kink, I am easy.

  • Injured bad guy showing up on good guy's doorstep saying "I didn't know where else to go"
  • Sharing Clothes - A feels surge of affection or attraction at seeing B wearing A's own clothes
These are just a couple of softer tags that I love. Does Vulture go back to the retirement home to Nathan's door there? Does he go to the Parker house? (You could include awkwardness with Peter and/or May, but you don't need to.) If you just handwave that Nathan and May didn't work out or they never got together, does he end up on Nathan's doorstep somewhere else? Why does Adrian need Nathan's help; is he trying to hide from someone, is he in Vulture getup, how badly is he hurt? As for clothes sharing, does this tie in with Adrian needing Nathan's help or not? If Vulture is in full costume and needs to get out of it, I could see Nathan letting him borrow clothes then. (Is Nathan protecting him from the law? Or from another criminal?) Or maybe that tag is the other way around and Nathan needs to borrow clothes from Adrian for some reason!

  • Rule 63 - genderbent to F/F
No real prompts for this one and you're welcome to mix it with any of the other tags! I just love the idea of these two as old ladies. Feel free to genderswap any of the other characters as well (Peter Parker/Spider-Man? May Parker?) or not. You are also more than welcome to make either or both of them trans women.

  • Sex in a shower or bath
Listen, the fact that they met while Nathan was in a hot tub for physical therapy makes me incredibly happy, okay? I could not pass this prompt up. Feel free to make it a regular shower or bath, or a physical therapy thing like it was in the comic!

Canon-Specific DNWs
-Weird Hot Young Vulture unless otherwise mentioned (mostly, if Nathan is being resurrected as a younger man, this is fine)
-most of Vulture's cancer storyline (even if you're using the "Funeral Arrangements" mini-arc, feel free to just... handwave that fact or end with him in complete remission or cured)
-Vulture's daughter, son, daughter-in-law, and grandson (they're just from parts of canon I'm only nominally familiar with)
-permanent character death (please both alive and not about to die soon by the end of the story)
-infidelity (just listing this here to explain that you can just... handwave stuff with May, have them not together anymore, AU so they never were together, or if pre-Nathan-dying have her be okay with his and Adrian's relationship; just no killing her off or having him cheat)

Canon-Specific Likes
-I LOVE NICKNAMES AND PET NAMES! Adrian calling Nathan "Nate"! Nathan calling Adrian "Ade"! I am also there for what it might mean if Nathan calls Adrian "Vulture"; a distance thing, a disapproval thing, an acceptance thing, an intimate thing? also feel free to let them be sappy if you like, especially Nathan who I can see dropping endearments potentially!
-if you're interested, I like trans headcanons for these characters, Adrian especially but Nathan is good too; I can especially see Nathan being a trans man but anything's good, and anything works for Adrian! and of course trans headcanons aren't obligatory!

Marvel 616
Quentin Beck/J. Jonah Jameson

Canon Source:
Read Comic Online
[Most Pertinent Issues:
Five times J. Jonah Jameson worked with or created a supervillain - The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) Issues #20, #25, #58, #82, and Annual 10
Two times Mysterio used Jameson to target Spider-Man - The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) Issues #13 and #24
That time Quentin Beck ran a nursing home and didn't need to try to protect May and Peter but did - The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) Issues #193-199
Mysterio just avoiding ever causing actual deaths - The Spectacular Spider-Man (1976) Issues #50-51, Questprobe Issue #2, Symbiote Spider-Man (2019) Issue #1, The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) Issue #311]

I just love how weirdly tied to Jameson and the Bugle a lot of Mysterio's earliest career and attempts at defeating Spider-Man are! First Quentin Beck pretends to be Spider-Man, then once the Bugle turns the city against him, he sends J. Jonah Jameson specifically a note "saying he could get rid of Spider-Man single-handed" to get a meeting with him and gets Jonah totally on his side to the point of being basically heralded as a hero! Then about 2 years later, after Jameson again turns the people of New York against Spider-Man (unprompted this time), Beck contacts Jameson and the Bugle again pretending to be a renowned European psychiatrist named Dr. Ludwig Rinehart, convincing him that Spider-Man is on the verge of going insane and then proceeding to try to gaslight Spider-Man into thinking he's nuts and revealing his secret identity to him.

The fact that Quentin Beck keeps going to J. Jonah Jameson and the Bugle, and Jonah keeps eagerly helping despite not knowing the score because he just hates Spider-Man THAT MUCH, combined with the fact that in multiple other storylines Jonah has actually created supervillains in an attempt to bring down Spider-Man, makes me think the two could actually get along really well. Especially since Mysterio's crimes, according to some issues of canon, just don't have a body count, and at some points (like in the arc where he's secretly in charge of a nursing home) even his attempts to kill Spider-Man are totally illusory and he's actually unnecessarily protective of innocent people.

Speaking of which, part of why I really enjoy these two is how close to the line both of them are. J. Jonah Jameson is deep down a kind man but is also a little bit willing to compromise his newspaper to take down Spider-Man and even, as mentioned, goes so far as to commission and create supervillains to try to take Spider-Man down. Quentin Beck is a supervillain who is also careful not to actually kill anyone (and is crushed the first time someone accidentally dies during one of his crimes) and who has tried to retire multiple points in his career, who seems mostly to be treating supervillainy as a game. They both hate Spider-Man and neither of them is actually that bad a person, but one of them happens to be a supervillain, and I find that kind of great.

Requested Tags

  • bets & wagers but make it sexy ;)
I'm honestly not even sure what they'd be betting on or the circumstances and I don't care, the idea of this tag applied to them made me 👀 haha. Do they end up planning to work together against Spider-Man and Mysterio makes a bet about his own success and it turns flirtatious and then way past flirty real quick? Is it a purposefully sexy bet about whether or not Quentin Beck can cut out the supervillainy or about the success of some project while he's going straight? Or come up with something else; a whole lot of possibilities could be fun (and hot).

  • Casefic: Undercover as a couple
  • Undercover - Undercover as a Couple brings out Feelings
There's a lot of possibilities you could play with here. What kind of "case" is it? Which of them is possibly more undercover? Is Mysterio trying to infiltrate something with Jonah's help? Is this a plot against Spider-Man? Or is this something for the Bugle where Quentin Beck is actually helping Jameson chase up a story, whether for his own benefit or for a return favor or just because he's trying to go straight? Is Quentin honestly trying to go straight and Spider-Man is suspicious and Quentin and Jonah just kinda agree to pretend to be a couple to mess with Spider-Man's head? Is Jameson in a fake supervillain persona, is Quentin Beck presenting himself as himself in a show of being redeemed, or is Quentin in disguise as a totally different person? (Quentin casually disguising himself as a woman and Jonah unexpectedly enjoying the crossdressing is totally welcome though obviously not obligatory. Similarly, Quentin being some kind of nonbinary is welcome but not obligatory.)

  • Undercover - Masquerade Party
Do they go to the masquerade together (maybe using the "something for the Bugle where Quentin Beck is actually helping Jameson chase up a story" idea from above)? Or do they show up separate? Do they both recognize one another, or do neither, or does Quentin recognize Jonah? Are they plotting together? Do they hit it off when they don't (or at least one of them doesn't) know who the other one is? Do they know who the other is but take this as an excuse for makeouts or sex they know they probably should not have? Or does something crime-related or dangerous happen, caused by Mysterio or not?

  • Character A abandons plans in order to rescue Character B
  • Character draws negative attention onto themself to protect another
I love these two getting attached to and being protective of each other, maybe even more than they realize before the protectiveness kicks in! It's easy to come up with ideas where Mysterio is the one doing the rescuing/protecting, because Jonah actually gets damseled a lot in the comics, and Mysterio doesn't actually want anyone to get really hurt or killed. But Mysterio can get in over his head too, and it could be neat to see Jonah stepping up to try to do something to help. I prefer happy endings in my fic.

  • Character takes dirty photographs or video for love interest
Okay this one was just necessary. Quentin Beck loves films and making movies and is a complete show-off! He also appreciates movies and Jonah has taken pictures himself before I'm pretty sure (for the Bugle I mean). Either one of them could be the one taking photos or video, or they could be exchanging.

  • Characters Surprised to Find Each Other at a Gay Bar
They usually only meet when Mysterio is doing a crime thing and getting the Bugle involved somehow, so it could be interesting to get them interacting under different circumstances and give them a chance to kinda start over a little bit. I could see it being awkward, them sharing a drink, them getting to talking, them finding each other attractive and ending up clicking in general... They could decide to go home together, or hook up in the bathroom or alleyway, or just decide to meet up again some other time (either as a date or ...probably as a date but they don't call it that), I am honestly not picky!

  • Clothed Sex
  • Costume Kink
  • First Time Seeing Partner Naked
  • Suit Kink
This batch of tags is just all about the various options of being naked or clothed in smut! Both Jonah and Quentin seem to wear suits a lot, and/or maybe they're at some sort of function (together or separately)! Maybe they're just in general clothed and too impatient or urgent to get naked! Maybe they're in semi-public (Jonah's office?)! Maybe they're both into Mysterio being in costume (look, he definitely has the build for it, okay?)! Or maybe, as the tag says, it's the first time one or both is seeing the other naked; maybe that's emotionally a big deal or maybe it's just very hot, or both.

  • Domesticity
Honestly, I feel like these two could work really well together, and I'd love to see some established relationship domestic stuff with them. Maybe Quentin's reformed; maybe not. Maybe they're having a movie night. Maybe they're first moving in together, or they get a pet, or they just decide to take a short vacation out to some property Quentin inherited during his nursing home scheme. Maybe Quentin's not 100% redeemed and is recently out of prison and they're domestic anyway! This tag for them just makes me smile. Go for it.

  • Finger kisses in a scene that wasn't sexual up to that point
  • Praise Kink
  • Receiver pets/strokes/pulls/otherwise touches giver’s hair during oral sex
Here's some kinky shit! Finger kisses could be Quentin kissing Jonah's fingers, Jonah kissing Quentin's fingers, Jonah kissing Quentin's gloved fingers, Mysterio lifting Jonah's hand to simulate a kiss against his helmet... What led up to it? Where does it go? As for praise kink, I feel like Quentin specifically would just absolutely fall apart for that; guy is starved for appreciation and I'd love to see him lose his mind getting it. As for the oral, well, lovingly described blowjobs are very welcome; Quentin's hair seems especially good for getting pulled but Jonah giving oral in this situation would also be very hot. (Cunnilingus for either or both of them is also totally acceptable.)

  • Identity porn-I was trying to make sure you didn't stop my alter ego's plan but oops I love you now
Okay, legitimately, Quentin Beck has tried to use the Bugle to defeat Spider-Man TWICE and failed both times at it, and the second time he pretended to be an entirely different person and it was Jonah who accidentally caused him to fail. I could absolutely see Quentin approaching Jonah again, either as himself playing reformed (maybe offering an interview? maybe trying to seduce? maybe both?) or as another made-up identity with a mask, in an attempt to keep Jonah from accidentally ruining whatever plans he has in progress again. And then just falling fucking stupidly in love. Oh no.

  • Journey of gay/queer self-discovery
I usually just default to characters already having themselves figured out, but I'm REALLY drawn to this tag for these two. For Jonah especially, he's been married to two different women, Joan and Marla, and had a son with Joan. I could absolutely see him having a late-in-life realization that he's bi (or gay if you'd prefer, or just in general "into men" without claiming either label, I'm easy). (I feel like Quentin is more likely to have realized he's not straight, but you're welcome to have him coming to that realization too if you'd like!)

  • Power Outage
Just to quote a prompt from previous letters: "If the power cuts out can Quentin easily fix it or does he have, like, a hundred candles around the place for some trick or another that he never got around to using?" Alternately, maybe Mysterio cuts the power for a crime! Or some Real Shit is going down and the power being out is a dangerous thing, or Quentin cuts the power on purpose to give them an edge? You could take this in a lot of directions!

  • Rule 63 - genderbent to F/F
JONAH WOULD MAKE A VERY HOT WOMAN, OKAY? I mean, Mysterio's costume would also be very hot on a woman and F!Quentin Beck would be adorable (and still goddamn brilliant? wow). However: F!J. Jonah Jameson still with the short salt-and-pepper hair and with the cigar habit, with the exact same personality. That is all. (You are also more than welcome to make either or both of them trans women.)

Canon-Specific DNWs
-Quentin Beck being written as a purposeful killer, delusional, or just in general "criminally insane"
-infidelity (just putting this here to specify to just... handwave Jonah not being married during whatever time the story is set)

Canon-Specific Likes
-nicknames! pet names! I could really enjoy Jonah and Quentin using kinda cheesy endearments for each other, tbh, like sweet, sweetheart, darling, once they actually become a thing...
-if you're interested, I like trans headcanons for these characters, especially Quentin but you're welcome to do something with Jonah! anything works for either of them, nonbinary or trans man or trans woman, though Jonah having a son with his wife might mean he's not a trans man. and of course trans headcanons aren't obligatory!

Marvel 616
Otto Octavius/Peter Parker

Canon Source:
Read Comic Online
[Most Pertinent Issues:
Spidey & Doc Ock in general - The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) Issue #3 (first Doctor Octopus issue), Spider-Man/Doctor Octopus: Year One (rewritten Doctor Octopus origin story), Fantastic Four (1961) Issue #267 (Ock helping Reed Richards), The Amazing Spider-Man (1999) Issues #43-45 (Ock helping civilians, and then kind of hilariously abandoning Spider-Man to die)
Ock desperate to save Spider-Man's life and thinking of their bond - The Spectacular Spider-Man (1976) Issues #220-221
Doctor Octopus in Peter Parker's body as Spider-Man - Superior Spider-Man: The Complete Collection (and Avenging Spider-Man Issue #15.1 after the first TPB of Superior)
Doctor Octopus in Peter Parker's body for the second time as Elliot Tolliver - The Amazing Spider-Man (2015) Issue #800, Superior Octopus, and Superior Spider-Man (2019)]

Ohhh boy I can't even explain in short form how and why I love these two so much. They have thought they worst of each other, they have misunderstood each other, Doctor Octopus has tried to kill Spider-Man (definitely not the reverse). Doctor Octopus has swung between minimal violence, outright saving lives sometimes, and crossing lines that even he knows deep down he shouldn't cross; when saving Spider-Man's life (and those issues I highly recommend for "was this gay on purpose?" feels) he talks up Spider-Man's goodness and how he needs him as his foil at length.

And then eventually they get a much greater understanding of each other in the weirdest way, with Otto Octavius taking over Peter Parker's body, Peter Parker dying in Otto Octavius's body, but not before shoving all of his memories into Otto's head and a piece of his consciousness as well. They basically share a brain for a while! And then when that whole situation goes south, Otto comes back in another Peter Parker clone body eventually, with the real Peter as Spider-Man, and... Spidey actually grants him a clean slate and later even tells him that he's doing the hero thing right.

The way they have so much intense and complicated history really gets to me. Whether you decide to set the story at a point when they're complicated enemies or one where they're complicated allies. One where they're in their original bodies or one where they're both in Peter Parker bodies. There's honestly so much possibility with these two!

Requested Tags

  • Aftermath of Bodyswap - Existential Crisis
Lots of possibilities for this one! Is the body-swap in question during the first time Otto is in Peter Parker's body? During the second? Or after going back to his original body? Somewhere in the middle, or AU'd so it only happens the once? Or you could just go off-canon and posit a situation where Otto and Peter just... swap bodies, either due to a totally different plan from Otto than the canon one or due to some outside reason and neither want to stay that way. However it's done, wow does canon give a whole lot of existential crisis fuel. It really seems like Otto remakes himself over and over and over and is never fully happy with the result. Add that to having Peter in his head (at least formerly), having all of his memories, having lived his life for a while, taking the name of Spider-Man, going from Otto Octavius to Peter Parker to Otto Octavius to Elliot Tolliver back to Otto Octavius... Or explore a similar phenomenon with Peter in Otto's body and getting all of his memories and so on! How much can the lines between them blur and/or can they help keep that from happening to each other?

  • antagonists have surprisingly tender sex
  • Characters With Benefits Who’ve Never Kissed; When They Do It’s a Line Crossing Intimate Moment
  • Enemies With Benefits Slowly Falling in Love
  • Good Guy A dirty talks Bad Guy B about how good a person B is/how much A trusts them
TENDER SEX AND FEELINGS BETWEEN ENEMIES: THE TAG BUNDLE. I looove the idea of them starting to have sex and being way less rough than even they might have imagined from the word go; them fucking for a while without kissing because kissing is Crossing A Line and would mean something neither of them are prepared for; them fucking and catching very strong feelings in general... And I just really have a kink for the last one. You know how there are fics with the bad guy fucking the good guy and taunting them over how they're allowing the villain to fuck them and how it makes them bad and sometimes tips into outright corruption? It's not that I'm not into that but this is like the exact spiritual opposite and it is smoking hot to me.

  • Enemies to Lovers - A gets in trouble or injured protecting B; which makes B see A in a new light
  • Enemies to Lovers - Seeing enemy/antagonist hurting prompts unexpected feelings
  • Hurt/Comfort - Character Doesn't Expect Tenderness But Gets It Anyway
  • Hurt/Comfort - Circumstances force enemies to patch each other up
  • Injured bad guy showing up on good guy's doorstep saying "I didn't know where else to go"
  • Taking a nearly lethal blow meant for their enemy
This batch of tags could either be called "Peter Parker would absolutely do this" or "these two really have a complicated relationship huh?" All of these work super well with Spider-Man being the one sympathizing/getting hurt for the sake of Doctor Octopus/helping patch Doc Ock up/taking in someone who really needs it, because he'd risk his life even for his worst enemies like that. But it would also be very interesting to see Otto in the more helpful/protective/sympathizing role, whatever his reasons, whatever gets him to that point; he did save Spider-Man's life that once, after all, and in some ways they are... close. Seeing one another injured or badly hurt or emotionally broken down and feeling like they need to help is just catnip to me.

  • Enemies to Lovers - Accidental soulbond between enemies
  • Slow Burn - Soulbonding is the only way for A to save seriously injured B's life
Two very different soulbond options! I love the idea of an accidental soulbond, whatever the symptoms of it, and the thought of these two trying to fight it, working together to try to find a cure, just in general having to deal with it together because it's impossible to ignore or just push through... Similarly, with the purposeful soulbond to save the other's life, I feel like Spider-Man would definitely do it to prevent a death, and that Doctor Octopus might very well do it to prevent Spider-Man's death specifically. (I prefer if the person saved isn't solely horrified/upset/angry but is also glad not to be dead even if their feelings are mixed.) Could still play with them trying to find ways around it/find a cure (would a cure let them basically cheat death or might they find out that a cure would mean B dying for real this time? or BOTH of them dying for some soulbond reason?)... Or maybe they just accept that this is a thing between them now and they have to figure out ways to work within those new rules. For either tag, I don't mind at all if there is a cure by the end, but I want their relationship to have irrevokably changed for the way more intimate even if so.

  • Fighting/Sparring as Foreplay
  • how do i politely ask him/her to slam me against a wall and make out with me?
So you know that feeling when you're fighting your enemy who has super-strength/incredibly strong metal arms and it's actually exhilerating and a lot hotter than you want it to be and you may or may not have thought about turning it into hard kissing or rough sex, or maybe you not-so-deep-down wish they'd use that mostly aggravating strength to slam you into a wall or hold your wrists and... No? Just me? (The first tag could be them fighting when they have a feeling things are inevitably going to go in a direction they have several times before; the latter feels like it's more of a "UST becoming resolved" plot. I DNW dubcon but I am fine with the initial kiss/sexual overture being something in the heat of the moment without knowing if the other is okay with it initially, so long as it quickly becomes obvious they're both into it and doesn't imply noncon would have happened if there had been resistance. Ock as the aggressor with his metal arm-tentacles is definitely hot but Spidey as the one taking advantage of super-strength is ALSO VERY HOT.)

  • Foreplay - Opening zipper with tab in mouth
Okay. Look. This one I don't have a real prompt for or many thoughts on, I just saw the tag and immediately imagined Spider-Man doing this while still mostly wearing his mask, just with his mouth and maybe nose exposed. Like the Spider-Man kiss only pulling down zipper with teeth and probably not upside-down. Especially if Doc Ock doesn't know Spider-Man's real identity (either pre-Spectacular Spider-Man #220 or post-Superior Spider-Man #12), but I am Into It either way; maybe he knows but it's still shockingly kinky?

  • Pining - Mutual pining that both characters figure out is requited but that's terrifying
  • pressed against each other while hiding from enemies; physical contact feels excruciatingly intense
Overwhelming feelings tags, the not already having sex edition! I just love the dynamic in the first tag here, where they both know but can't make a move and both want the other person to make a move but have absolutely no idea what they'd do if they did and any UST moment is one they're both very aware of, very aware the other is aware of, and are internally screaming about. (I do prefer this to work out, lol.) And I absolutely love the scenario in the second tag where it's a dangerous, maybe even life-or-death situation with mutual enemies and somehow they have to cooperate with and trust each other and the physical proximity is WAY TOO MUCH. Fuck me up.

  • Soulmates - Both are resistant to the idea but fall in love over time
Soulmates rather than soulbonds! I love all different kinds of soulmate tropes, ones that are in the tagset and ones that aren't, so long as they aren't related to death/otherwise super angsty (like the "last words" one or "soulmates who are destined to be enemies/for one to kill the other"). Otherwise, feel free to use your favorite. Is it a type where they know the moment they meet no matter the circumstance? Is it a situation where they might not find out they met their soulmate until later but will be able to understand who it is, or if they don't find out until later will it be really hard to find out who they were? Feel free to play with first meetings here, too. Did they meet for the first time while Otto was 18 at the college and Peter was... maybe 14, visiting? How might that meeting and/or the following events have been affected if they were soulmates? Or did they meet for the first time during Doctor Octopus's intro comic at the Bliss Private Hospital; do they realize immediately or only after the fight is done? Is it a situation where Peter knows exactly who his soulmate is but Otto thinks his soulmate is either Spider-Man or Peter Parker and doesn't immediately know they're the same person? Or does Otto somehow only get a soulmark indicating Peter Parker when he winds up in Peter's body, the first time or the second, and it was different or missing before? How do they resist it, what's it like when they start giving in?

  • Time Loop - being in the loop together leads to getting together
This has nothing to do with anything in canon whatsoever but I'm a sucker for this trope. Feel free to have there be a reason why Peter and Otto are both looping (and I do kind of love the idea of them being the only two looping!) or just handwave it as For Reasons. If you want to explore it, what even caused the loop? Do they have to stop a machine to make the looping stop, or stop a particular superpowered individual who's doing it, or rescue a specific person (maybe even the SAME person?), or figure out an action they aren't even sure of at first that would make it stop? Is it kissing? I love them trying to stop a "harmless" loop where nothing particularly terrible is happening but it's maddening to live the same day over and over just as much as I love them trying to stop horrible things from happening over and over again. I love them having to work together and try to figure it out, and bonding while being trapped and the only two who could possibly really understand. So much good stuff here.

Canon-Specific DNWs
-Doctor Octopus being presented as irredeemably crazy/evil
-permanent character death of any canon characters
-focus on infidelity (preference is for handwaving or open relationship stuff but I know Peter's usually dating Mary Jane, sometimes Black Cat, sometimes someone else, so I just don't want focus on cheating)
-underage while Peter is under 16 (they're welcome to find out they're soulmates when Peter is younger if you go with that prompt, but please no kissing/smut/described attraction on Otto's end until Peter's 16)

Canon-Specific Likes
-nicknames! pet names! I like it when things someone is called in anger or to annoy them at first shift over to being totally normal and then even endearments over time, like Doctor Octopus calling Spider-Man "wall-crawler" or "web-slinger/web-spinner" or "arachnid", or Spider-Man calling Doctor Octopus "Doc," "Ock," or "Doc Ock", but I am also super into exploring moments when maybe one calls the other by their real name, whether "Parker" or "Peter," whether "Dr. Octavius" or "Otto"; is it a threat or is it an appeal or is it intimate?
-if you're interested, I like trans headcanons for these characters! I can especially see nonbinary Doctor Octopus but trans man and trans woman both totally work for me for different reasons as well; I especially enjoy trans woman or nonbinary Spidey but trans man is also totally acceptable. and of course trans headcanons aren't obligatory!

The Spectacular Spider-Man (Cartoon)
Chameleon/J. Jonah Jameson

Canon Source:
The Spectacular Spider-Man
[Most Pertinent Episodes:
For the two together - S1E10 (Persona)
For Chameleon - S1E9 (The Uncertainty Principle) (spoilery cameo), S2E13 (Final Curtain) (final episode, obvious spoilers)
For Jonah - S1E4 (Market Forces); S1E6 (The Invisible Hand); S1E7 (Catalyst); S1E11 (Group Therapy); S2E6 (Growing Pains); S2E7 (Identity Crisis); S2E12 (Opening Night) (he's in some other episodes but these have his best scenes I think)]

First, I'm amused that Jonah and Chameleon's only real "interaction" is of Chameleon pretending to be Spider-Man to ruin Spidey's rep, having photos of Spidey robbing places emailed to the Bugle, and then having Jonah vouch for Chameleon being the real Spider-Man when he was robbing the yacht. (Jameson really, really wants Spider-Man to be crooked, okay?) Mostly, though, I like a combination of the fact that Chameleon often pretends to be different people and they could end up interacting without Jonah even knowing it at first, with the idea of nodding to the comics where Jonah occasionally is written as commissioning some to-be supervillain or other to try to take down Spider-Man. Anything from Jameson outright contacting Chameleon (whether he knows it's Chameleon or not) or the Tinkerer in order to commission a fake "superhero" or "supervillain" to unmask Spider-Man/bring him to justice, to Chameleon amused while Jonah complains about the webslinger (and maybe coming up with a solution...) seems very possible.

Also, I am really intrigued by how different their viewpoints are re: masks and the conversations they might be able to have. Jameson hates and doesn't trust masked heroes, stating outright that it's because "what're they hiding, anyway?" Whereas Chameleon is someone who just straight-up doesn't have a normal face of his own and might not even have his own legal identity anymore outside of being Chameleon, depending on how you chose to take the character; he's almost constantly wearing masks, that's just how he goes through life whenever he steps out the door. And as Green Goblin said once, "We all wear masks... But which one is real? The one that hides your face, or the one that is your face?" That's a philosophical debate that's really interesting to me particularly for Chameleon. I dunno, it just seems like it could really add to an already potentially interesting dynamic!

I'm also fascinated by Chameleon in the sense of like... Outside of Chameleon, who is often pretending to be other people, who is he? Does he even have a legal identity outside of Chameleon, or has he erased it? Feel free to use the name Dmitri Smerdyakov for him (though I prefer he not be related to Kraven in this universe), but if you wanted to solely stick with Chameleon for him or give him a fake name like, idk, Leon Smirnov (the most common surname in Russia, basically like giving him the surname Smith) or Aleksandr Smirnov (also the most common first name...) or w/e that he goes by now when necessary that is obviously not his birth name, go nuts.

Requested Tags

  • bets & wagers but make it sexy ;)
Once again, not sure what they'd be betting on or the circumstances and I don't care because major 👀 for this tag. Do they end up conspiring for Chameleon to unmask Spider-Man somehow and a bet gets made about the likelihood of Spider-Man recognizing Chameleon (if Jonah knows it's Chameleon) or the plan's success (whether he does or not) and it turns flirtatious and then way past flirty real quick? That's the first thing that comes to mind but there are other possibilities including purposefully sexy wagers over something or other. Feel free to play around with this one.

  • Case/mission fic ultimately resulting in ship’s realization of feelings for each other
  • Casefic: Undercover as a couple
  • Undercover as a Couple
Once again, this works really well in a scenario where Jonah's hired Chameleon (whether he knows it's Chameleon or not) to help unmask/expose/defeat Spider-Man, but could also be if Chameleon (again, as himself or not) convinces Jonah into having the Bugle help him with something (under initially false pretenses or not), or if Jonah hires Chameleon for some other thing (potentially important news story related?). Or if they're a bit more established as knowing each other after handwaved events and one just agrees to lend the other a hand. Or the first tag could involve Jonah acting as a supervillain himself; I'm surprised that never happened in the comics tbh (well, besides the Spider-Slayers). (Chameleon casually disguising himself as a woman and Jonah unexpectedly enjoying the crossdressing is totally welcome though obviously not obligatory. Similarly, Chameleon being nonbinary, bigender, agender, whatever, is very welcome but not obligatory!)

  • Character A Is Surprised By Character B's Non-Human Cock But They're Really Into It Anyway
  • Character(s) have both sets of genitals/non-realistic intersex anatomy
  • First Time Seeing Partner Naked
  • Genderfluid Character
Okay, one, I'm very xeno and Chameleon has some interesting biology with his face already, so feel free to take major advantage of that ("non-human cock" can be as cock-like or totally different as you want; more vagina-like or totally third option are also both fine with me). Both sets of genitalia is also a major kink of mine, and again, Chameleon is already unusual. First time seeing partner naked can involve either of the above but don't have to, and I'd be just as happy to read about Chameleon enjoying seeing Jonah as the other way around, so go nuts here! Finally, a tag that doesn't need to be smutty but can be, I stuck it here because it seemed to fit; I'm super happy with any interpretation of Chameleon as genderqueer, nonbinary, bigender, agender, anything basically, or something not nailed down with a specific term. Still using "he" pronouns is fine, switching between pronouns depending on disguise is fine, "they" is fine, more nonstandard pronouns like e, ey, xe, ve, ze, zhe, zie, sie, are all fine.

  • extremely perceptive Character A is attracted to complicated Character B immediately
In all honesty? I can see either of them as Character A and either of them as Character B. Chameleon would need to be intensely perceptive for his job, picking up people's voice and mannerisms and all the information he needs and so on, and I definitely get the impression that Jonah is actually a very perceptive person as well despite initial impressions. Equally, both are very complex people; Chameleon is very likely to be hiding something (including being Chameleon!) and to have his own reasons for doing things, and Jonah has a lot of loud abraisive qualities while being deep down a thoroughly decent person and very capable of being thoughtful, clever, and, well, perceptive. I could really enjoy either of them being very "huh, this person is something"... or feel free to have it be both of them.

  • Foreplay - Kissing down partner's spine as you slide down/unzip their top
  • Kisses pressed against the back of the neck and/or along bare/mostly-bare shoulders
  • Sharing Clothes - A feels surge of affection or attraction at seeing B wearing A's own clothes
  • Suit Kink
Kissing and clothes kinks! Actually these are all vaguely clothes-related. There's something to be said about the vulnerability of getting someone undressed, or even just them baring some skin, especially when Chameleon doesn't seem to show himself readily to many people. (And Chameleon doesn't need to be the one baring himself, but he definitely can be enjoying that vulnerability; he can also be enjoying the allowed vulnerability in Jonah!) As for clothes sharing, maybe Chameleon needs a quick change to get out of trouble and Jonah lets him borrow something, or maybe this is a case of Chameleon disguising himself as Jonah (maybe to help Jonah?) and Jonah is like "well why is THAT hot??" about it (while Chameleon's not wearing the mask or while he is). Or Jonah is always wearing a suit, and sometimes get more dressed up for events, and Chameleon seems like he wears a suit fairly often and probably regularly dresses up even more for disguises/missions. One or the other or both could easily kink on it. Clothed sex more than welcome here, as is playing with or tugging on or untying ties!

  • Identity Porn - Identity Reveal
  • Uncovering a major secret by gradually putting the pieces together
Kind of the two ways it could even go if Chameleon is using a mask and fake name while interacting with Jonah at first! For "Identity Reveal," maybe Chameleon reveals his own identity, or he gets unmasked, or someone else just calls him out. As for putting the pieces together, well, Jonah is observant/perceptive and maybe Chameleon is even dropping a few hints because he likes him/is into him and wants to see if he'll put it together... Or maybe Jonah pieces it together even with Chameleon not trying to let him, maybe some high stress situations or things going unexpectedly wrong make some clues drop. Play around with all the identity porn!

  • Journey of gay/queer self-discovery
I usually just default to characters already having themselves figured out, but I'm REALLY drawn to this tag for these two. For Jonah especially, he's been married and has a son! I could absolutely see him having a late-in-life realization that he's bi (or gay if you'd prefer, or just in general not solely into women without claiming either label, I'm easy). (I feel like Chameleon is way more likely to know he's not straight; also, you're more than welcome to, if Chameleon is genderfluid or anything of the type, have Jonah having a late-in-life gender-related realization of his own! But this tag for these two definitely seems to lend itself to "wow, I did not realize I was anything other than straight, but you showed up and I am learning some things about myself"!)

  • Lovingly described voice kink
I saw this and my very first thought was "Chameleon's voice and accent are SUPER HOT," but I won't lie: Jonah is voiced by Daran Norris and his voice is absolutely hot too. Feel free to describe either or both of them being incredibly into the other's voice. I don't have much to say about this kink but I love it so much.

  • Masked Ball As An Excuse for Inadvisable Sex
  • Undercover - Masquerade Party
Masquerades just super intrigue me when it comes to Chameleon! It's a literal thing but can also be super metaphorical, everyone's wearing masks and Chameleon can be several layers of undercover, people might be pretending to be other people or pretending not to know one another... Feel free to have them both know who the other is mostly but Jonah doesn't know it's Chameleon (just a fake identity of his), or have them both know each other including Jonah knowing it's Chameleon (does he admit it? did Jonah hire him? either of these options could be a good opportunity for "Jonah hires someone to unmask Spider-Man again, they could be meeting to talk about it!), or Chameleon to know who Jonah is but to be a near-complete stranger to him, or for them just to be using the excuse of not being able to tell who anyone is... Are they meeting on purpose? Is it a chance run-in? Is Chameleon there to steal something? Does another supervillain attack (maybe Mysterio, maybe Chameleon is even in league with him, or Mysterio is a distraction for what Chameleon is trying to do? maybe a totally unplanned third party!)?

  • Sudden Realization - Oh No They're Hot
I love this whole dynamic/moment in general. Could easily be Chameleon unmasking himself, or disguising himself or otherwise showing major confidence and competence, or dressing/fighting as a fake superhero/supervillain in a plan to take down Spider-Man, and Jonah having that reaction! But honestly it could also just as easily be a scenario where Chameleon is working with or been hired by or be trying to use Jonah and builds up more and more without him even realizing it culminating in him having his own "...uh oh, shit, this was not supposed to happen" moment. I'm super into this tag so feel free to play around with it!

Canon-Specific DNWs
-infidelity (putting this here just so I can specify that the easiest way to handle this is probably to just have Jonah's wife be his ex-wife; doesn't need to be dwelled on, just ignore the "I'm a married man" line and that he went to the opera with her in "Gangland")
-Chameleon betraying Jonah
-Jonah feeling hurt, betrayed, and/or angry at length in the fic about Chameleon hiding his real identity if that happens; you're welcome to put in some of this (or not! or not hide it at all) but I don't want feelings of betrayal to be a lot of the plot/word count or to last for in-universe ages
-any of the Sinister Six being presented as irredeemably crazy/evil
-dwelling on John Jameson being "insane"

Canon-Specific Likes
-noncanon background pairings I actually enjoy if they happen to come up: Doctor Octopus/Vulture(/Electro), Sandman/Rhino, Mysterio/Tinkerer
-noncanon poly I would be totally okay with is if Chameleon is in an open relationship with Quentin and Phineas, so long as Jonah knows/finds out and everyone's okay with things; obviously this is not necessary
-generally I like Sinister Six poly even if it's not the focus, actually, if the Sinister Six are included
-NICKNAMES/PET NAMES, and I count Chameleon's habit of referring to literally everyone by surname as this tbh; I could enjoy "Leon" being a nickname/pet name for Chameleon, or like if the name he's going by at any point is Aleksandr, for example, he could tell Jonah to call him Sasha and that could end up an actual endearment, and I could see him calling Jonah by "Jonah" if he insists but I love the idea that "Jameson" is still intimate for him
-if you're interested, I like trans headcanons for either these characters, Chameleon especially but you're welcome to use one for Jonah; I quite like nonbinary Chameleon, for Jonah anything works though with his son it might be less likely he's a trans man. and of course trans headcanons aren't obligatory!

The Spectacular Spider-Man (Cartoon)
Otto Octavius/Adrian Toomes

Canon Source:
The Spectacular Spider-Man
[Most Pertinent Episodes:
For the two together - S1E1 (Survival of the Fittest) (though this is majorly a Vulture episode); S1E11 (Group Therapy); S2E3 (Reinforcement); S2E4 (Shear Strength); S2E8 (Accomplices) (for them showing up at the auction together, also interesting for Ock's character in some ways); S2E10 (Gangland)
For Otto - S1E5 (Competition); S1E6 (The Invisible Hand); S1E7 (Catalyst) (only in a small scene); S1E8 (Reaction) (Doctor Octopus origin episode, and check the photo on Otto's wall!); S2E1 (Blueprints) (scene at end as Master Planner); S2E2 (Destructive Testing) (scene at beginning and end as Master Planner)
...Adrian literally does not have episodes where his relationship with Otto isn't immensely interesting to me! Well then.]

I am just WAY TOO INVESTED in these ridiculous theatrical supervillains being pre-supervillain friends who are now loyal and in love while trying to take over the world/take murderous revenge!

While the first episode introduces both characters with Adrian furious at Otto, it makes sense, since they seem to have been close before (the photo on Otto's wall in the Doctor Octopus origin episode!) and Adrian was probably feeling hurt/betrayed. The rest of their dynamic is so far from what one might expect from that first impression that it's insane! Reunited as cellmates, Vulture helping Doc Ock with a big jailbreak, not just working together in the Sinister Six but Vulture ceding his desire to take vengeance on Osborn to follow Ock's plan to take out Spider-Man first... And they just never work apart again? Adrian is one of only three people to find out the Master Planner's true identity, part of his inner circle! When Ock tests out the technology meant to allow him to hack into every single electrical device in the city, he does so by trying to kill Norman Osborn, seemingly for Adrian's sake, and despite revenge being Vulture's driving motivation Adrian is totally fine about it not working. When Otto tries to credit him Phineas Mason and for doing brilliant work assembling the technology, Adrian immediately demurs the compliment and turns it back around on him: "The brainwork was all yours, Otto." For a grouchy old man, he smiles a lot around Otto, too!

And even after the Master Planner's master plan is defeated and literally every other member of the Sinister Six seems to go their separate ways and do their own things, Vulture just stays with Doctor Octopus, seemingly acting as bodyguard for the auction, for the Valentine's Day summit (where they also dress up fancy and hot)... There are also just these cute little touches I love, like how in the first Sinister Six fight when Spider-Man jumps on the Vulture's back you can see the back of Doctor Octopus's head tracking them, and a few moments later Otto is the one to pull Spider-Man off Adrian's back. And when Doctor Octopus puts a tentacle on everyone's shoulders in the Sinister Six ep to ease them back down into their chairs, it looks like his tentacle is on Adrian's back instead of his shoulder. And when Hammerhead shoots at Adrian at the summit and knocks him unconscious, Otto's cry of "TREACHERY!" is fuckin pissed and he just has no patience for Tombstone in that fight after. I love how Ock seems to honestly care about his team and make an effort to make them happy, and how Vulture is perfectly willing to put his own goals on the backburner in a way that feels very "I am helping this man take over the world because he wants to and he deserves to get whatever he wants, fuck you." I love seeing these supervillains have huge soft spots, in general and especially for each other!

TL;DR they married, ty for reading my villain shipping Ted Talk.

Requested Tags

  • Battle Couple
  • Competence - highly effective teamwork
These two working together is incredibly hot to me and I want to read all about it! How well do they fight together? Have they become incredibly well-coordinated? And outside of actual battle how well do they work together? I love Otto making plans and Adrian carrying his parts of them out super well, I love them working on inventions and projects and things together, I love Ock being able to completely trust Vulture as his bodyguard and therefore do what he needs to do more easily. I just love these two working and fighting together as if they've been doing so for ages. Give me all of it!

  • Body worship of chubby character
I love Otto's design in this series. He's adorable as well as attractive and pre-Doc Ock I just want to hug him and post-Doc Ock it's like... damn. I love belly kink when it's just earnest and immense appreciation of the character's body because their partner is super attracted to everything about them. I don't have much more to say about it, but I would love it if you scratched this itch for me!

  • Catching injured character as they faint or lose balance
  • Hurt/Comfort - Catching hurt character as they collapse
I was drawn to these tags because tbh, given Otto's arms and Adrian's flight, this could be dramatic. So feel free to really go for it here! Does Ock use his arms to catch Vulture as he falls out of the air? Does Vulture swoop down and grab Ock while Ock is falling from a great height and is unconscious or has nothing for his arms to latch onto to catch his own fall? That said, feel free to go for more minor versions of this, with Otto using his metal arms or real arms to catch Adrian even when he's on the ground, or Adrian catching a collapsing or falling Otto without even needing to use flight. These tags are is also really good for defensiveness/protectiveness as well as H/C, and I highly prefer happy endings!

  • Character A abandons plans in order to rescue Character B
I see "plans" and I think Master Planner, and honestly Otto abandoning his meticulously thought out master plans the moment Adrian needs him to is just so good to me. It works equally well the other way around, however, as Adrian canonically does seem to unhesitatingly prioritize Otto over his own desires for revenge and act as his bodyguard/backup a lot! I love the immense emotion implied in this tag, one being willing to just drop everything, even something really important to them, to help the other, and I would love if it's obvious that the dedication cuts both ways and neither is resentful or anything.

  • Intimate soft make outs with one character in the other's lap
  • Lovingly described voice kink
  • Praise Kink
This is a batch of tags, about how hot I find these two, and how much of a sap I am for them 🎶 Really, though, I love all of these so much. I do see Adrian as more subby, but that dynamic doesn't need to be there at all and I'd be just as happy if you switched it up. Adrian perching in Otto's lap and them intimately making out and just adoring each other is great. I'll be honest, Otto's voice is SO HOT to me (Peter MacNichol just murmurs some of those lines, damn), but let's be real, Adrian's voiced by Robert Englund and his voice is pretty damn hot too! Feel free to describe either or both of them being incredibly into the other's voice. And I can easily see Otto loving to praise Adrian, but I can also see Adrian wanting to give Otto all the praise he always deserved, so that works both ways as well. I just love these two.

  • A is a badass; B is protective of them anyway
  • A is injured B goes berserk
These two tags work SO WELL for these two imo. Both of them can handle themselves and are ridiculously impressive in a fight and they'd both know the other can take care of himself and I love that dynamic of still being protective and looking out for one another. Vulture has seemed to repeatedly be acting as Ock's bodyguard and/or backup, but I can easily imagine Ock being protective too... especially after "Gangland." And speaking of which, "A is injured B goes berserk" could also go for either of them. Vulture has definitely lashed out in rage before, just looking at his hatred for and targeting of Norman Osborn, and this practically does happen in a mild way in "Gangland" when Hammerhead shoots at Vulture and takes him out of the fight and he wasn't even actually that hurt! (He seemed to have gotten up and retreated just fine before the police showed up.) I generally like H/C after the fact, but any injury not being as bad as initially assumed is also quite good; I highly prefer happy endings.

  • Journey of gay/queer self-discovery
TBQH I could really enjoy this for either non-straight or non-cis stuff for these two. Set during canon or pre-canon (or post-canon!) are both fine! I can easily see Otto having been very repressed before becoming Doctor Octopus, and I can just as easily see Adrian maybe being standoffish and deciding that he doesn't have the time or the patience to make good friends much less date before Otto/before becoming Vulture/before the Sinister Six and having quite the belated realization! I could also see Adrian having a later in life realization of being nonbinary or a trans woman, or it taking Otto reinventing himself as Doctor Octopus to realize through exploration that he/they/she is nonbinary or a trans woman. Or if one of them already knows they're LGBT and the other figures themself out in part due to knowing them...

  • Loyalty Kink: Call off your dog
  • Loyalty Kink: Gestures of loyalty performed in private
  • Performative Fealty - kneeling/kissing back of hand/deference before others
This ship is so good for loyalty kink! There is absolutely no question that Vulture is Ock's "dog" in this case (bird of prey?). I interpret this tag as the loyalty between them being called out by a third party, that it's made obvious both that Vulture is being a little too obviously protective and Ock absolutely has the power to tell him to stop and have him listen; there's almost an element of getting caught at something, maybe even an unspoken threat that they know the two mean a lot to each other and that can potentially be used against them (but not necessarily). Vulture acting in the first place on Otto's orders is also acceptable; "call off your dog" being a threat with one of them actually in danger is also very acceptable (happy ending please!). As for gestures of loyalty and performative fealty, those are both much easier tags to interpret, and of course Adrian is an obvious pick for the one performing the gesture(s), but Otto returning his loyalty and dedication either privately or very purposefully publicly is also super hot and sweet.

  • Marriage - Characters Consider Themselves Married Even if in the Eyes of the Law They're Not
  • Marriage For Love
I do not imagine too many of my ships as married or getting married but OH BOY these two are a big exception! Feel free to go either way for this, either with them actually getting married (or one proposing, or them mutually discussing it as a thing they want to do!) or just... eventually agreeing out loud in some way that they already are or would like to consider themselves to be moving forward. Simple rings whether it's legal marriage or not totally welcome; they or anyone using the terms "husband" or "spouse" or "married" or the like welcome.

  • Monstrous transformation does not get in the way of a relationship - in fact it makes things better
This is a very specific desire for me, okay! Vulture's got TEETH and INTERESTING PUPILS and took the first opportunity to be a goddamn bird. I want a fic that leans into this. Does he have harpy blood? What might make him transform further? Or does he voluntarily go to Miles Warren, either to become more bird or just to figure out what's going on with his DNA because he suspects there's something weird (but the becoming more harpy/bird is a surprise to both of them)? Does Warren force a transformation on him to experiment with bird DNA (since he's got the reptile and mammal DNA stuff figured out, that seems like a logical next step)? However it happens, it's totally fine for him to be shaken by it at first but I want him to at least wind up positive about the results and I want Otto to be very much into it once Adrian is more comfortable with it! Monster/xeno smut very welcome here!

  • Suit Kink
  • Undercover - Masquerade Party
After "Gangland" good lord do I have a huge suit kink for these two. Just look. (And they've got their metal arms and a FULL FLIGHT SUIT on under there, respectively!) Very nice Valentine's Day getup, boys. Anyway, they didn't really get to enjoy things... at all... so I want them to be able to enjoy one another in suits! One lingeringly helping the other dress, lovingly described undressings, sex while still mostly clothed, and really loving any of that! As for the masquerade thing, they would definitely both know who the other is; what are they there for, what are they planning? Whatever the reasons, it's another excuse to wear suits and it's an excuse to wear (and describe) masks and both of those things are hot and they could both find the other attractive! I just have a need after that episode, give me whatever you've got!

Canon-Specific DNWs
-any of the Sinister Six, especially these two specifically, being presented as irredeemably crazy/evil
-either character betraying the other
-honestly, any of the Sinister Six betraying each other (Shocker not included; he's an Enforcer first and foremost, he was just on loan)
-public proposals
-feederism, weight gain, inflation, pregnancy

Canon-Specific Likes
-noncanon background pairings I actually enjoy if they happen to come up: Mysterio/Tinkerer(/Chameleon), Sandman/Rhino
-Otto/Adrian/Electro is noncanon poly I would be totally okay with, so long as Otto and Adrian have heavy focus; obviously this is not necessary
-generally I like Sinister Six poly even if it's not the focus, actually, if the rest of the Sinister Six are included, I just really want Otto and Adrian to be heavily focused on!
-NICKNAMES/PET NAMES, and honestly, I count how Otto and Adrian always seem to address each other by their first names; I also like, if you include him in the fic at all, the way Electro always calls Otto "Doc" and seems to call Adrian "Vulch" and they are both totally open to being called those things from him!
-if you're interested, I like trans headcanons for either/both of these characters; for both of them I'm happy with anything, nonbinary or trans man or trans woman. trans headcanons for any other Sinister Six if they show up are also 100% good; I would prefer Electro as a trans woman or nonbinary if you write that character as trans, but anything goes for all the rest of them! and of course trans headcanons aren't obligatory!

The Spectacular Spider-Man (Cartoon)
Otto Octavius/Peter Parker

Canon Source:
The Spectacular Spider-Man
[Most Pertinent Episodes:
For the two together - S1E8 (Reaction) (Doctor Octopus origin episode); S1E11 (Group Therapy); S2E3 (Reinforcement); S2E4 (Shear Strength); S2E10 (Gangland)
For Otto - S1E1 (Survival of the Fittest) (only in a small scene; S1E5 (Competition); S1E6 (The Invisible Hand); S1E7 (Catalyst) (only in a small scene); S2E1 (Blueprints) (scene at end as Master Planner); S2E2 (Destructive Testing) (scene at beginning and end as Master Planner); S2E8 (Accomplices)
For Peter it's just the entire show unfortunately! But also not unfortunately, because I highly recommend this show!]

Peter's relationship with Otto in this show is... not great but also a little bit complicated! Doctor Octopus is one of his biggest enemies, of course. And Otto's kinda been trying to kill Spider-Man since waking up after his "accident" (and assumes at least at first that Spider-Man was responsible for the accident, trying to kill him!). I find it really interesting that Spider-Man was first introduced to Doc Ock (maybe for the very first time ever) in those moments when he was unconscious as just this ordinary Oscorp scientist who nearly died and had a bunch of rubble fall on him, and then during that initial fight -- right until Ock takes Liz hostage at Coney Island the next day -- Spider-Man doesn't actually properly fight Otto. Like, while Otto is lashing out at him and pursuing him, the most Spider-Man does until he threatens Liz's life is yoinking his arms out from under him, and at Oscorp and Tri Corp he doesn't actually fight Otto at all. Like, he's still treating Otto as this scientist who's not doing so hot after his accident.

In fact, one of Spider-Man's main things in this show is usually minimum force and always trying to keep everyone alive, "bad guys included!"; while he does fight and trade blows with Doctor Octopus later, a notable example of him pulling punches is in "Gangland" when Ock rips up a huge chunk of pavement, flings it at Spider-Man's head, and Spider-Man ducks, webs it out of the air, slings it back around towards Ock, but purposefully slams it into the ground at Ock's feet to make the ground collapse rather than hitting him with it. (I really appreciate little details of choreography like that and Spider-Man not fighting at all during the first Ock scene at Oscorp!) Spider-Man also doesn't follow up with it much, but he's tried to reach out to almost every one of his villains at least once! And recently, with Sandman, it actually worked, which might stick in his mind...

So we have a supervillain who's definitely trying to kill a superhero and who might have some mild interest in said superhero's photographer but not enough to bother him apparently, and a superhero who wants to stop said supervillain but definitely doesn't want him badly hurt or dead and who seemed initially pretty sympathetic to the scientist he used to be and has something of a habit of trying to reach out to his villains... Peter knows that Doctor Octopus is Otto Octavius, of course, but Otto has no idea that Spider-Man is Peter Parker. There's quite a bit to work with here, imo, and the more I think about these dynamics, the more I find myself also interested in them potentially slowly developing into something else.

(As a note: I'm not opposed to underage for these two with Peter being 16+ or even 17+, so it's not an outright DNW, but I don't particularly enjoy it mostly because I can't see them getting to that point within the span of a single year, or even two. I love the idea of a huge slow-burn with them, though I know that that'd be well outside the minimum word count, so don't worry, I'm not actually expecting a long slowburn! Just giving you an idea of what I tend to imagine as the time-span of this. I feel like a lot of the promise and intrigue of these two as a ship is getting closer and actually caring about each others' well-being, first mostly impersonally (Spider-Man is already there), then in a personal way, then going "...well shit I am actually significantly more emotionally invested in this person than I thought. When did that happen?")

Requested Tags

  • Bonding - characters grow closer despite themselves
  • Enemies to Allies of Convenience to Lovers
  • Pining - Mutual pining that both characters figure out is requited but that's terrifying
These tags are just straight up the slow burn tropes! How do they start bonding? How might they even get to and navigate a slightly less "immediate pitched combat upon seeing Spider-Man" relationship? What might get Otto to actually stop and listen to Spider-Man for a moment if he tried to make an appeal? Could Spider-Man appeal to his logic, or could Ock appeal to Spider-Man somehow to get them to see even a tiny bit more eye-to-eye/have some initial respect for each other? Could Spidey convince Ock that he had nothing to do with his accident? In an emergency situation, might Spider-Man appeal to Doctor Octopus to help him save people? (This worked at least once in the comics!) Or, like, maybe Otto Octavius manages to fake being cured again well enough to get out of Ravencroft, and decides it's worth looking into Spider-Man's photographer after all, and does so by offering to mentor Peter Parker in science, who agrees solely to keep an eye on Doctor Octopus, and they end up surprising themselves by bonding? Or, of course, going with the "Enemies to Allies of Convenience to Lovers" tag, maybe they find themselves facing mutual enemies a little more often than they expected? Write as many scenes from this slow burn as you feel like! (Also, I just love the dynamic in that mutual pining tag, where they both know but can't make a move and both want the other person to make a move but have absolutely no idea what they'd do if they did and any UST moment is one they're both very aware of, very aware the other is aware of, and are internally screaming about... I do prefer this to work out, lol.)

  • Both Captured - Forced to Work Together to Escape
  • Hurt/Comfort - Circumstances force enemies to patch each other up
  • pressed against each other while hiding from enemies; physical contact feels excruciatingly intense
Mutual enemy tags! These ones could be any rating and include actually getting together in any way or not. I love the idea of them being in a position where someone was actually good/strong/clever enough to capture both of them but working together they can turn the tables and they have to trust each other! I also love them both being hurt and having to help each other and patch each other up, and Spider-Man would just definitely do that without compunction; how might Ock feel about that? And just, wow, I absolutely love the scenario in that last tag where it's a dangerous, maybe even life-or-death situation with mutual enemies and somehow they have to cooperate with and trust each other and the physical proximity is WAY TOO MUCH. Fuck me up.

  • Character A thinks they're about to die and kisses Character B (and then oh no they live)
Peter is absolutely the more impulsive one in this particular way, he'd almost definitely be Character A. Has he already been unmasked? Does he unmask himself? Does he just pull his mask partway up but not reveal himself? Does he actually kiss Otto as Peter Parker and then put on the mask and reveal his identity? Or might Otto already know? "I'm alive! I survived! --oh no" makes me laugh in this scenario, too, like. Oh, now I have to deal with my oldest and greatest enemy: the consequences of my own actions. (I definitely prefer this to work out!)

  • Character draws negative attention onto themself to protect another
  • Enemies to Lovers - A gets in trouble or injured protecting B; which makes B see A in a new light
  • Enemies to Lovers - Seeing enemy/antagonist hurting prompts unexpected feelings
  • Protecting your enemy from their enemies
  • Taking a nearly lethal blow meant for their enemy
This batch of tags could be called "Peter Parker absolutely would" and it'd be fully accurate. He would indeed draw negative attention to protect even an enemy, whether or not they have any more complicated or deeper relationship yet. He would very much get in trouble or injured for goddamn Doctor Octopus if need be. He'd protect any of his enemies from their enemies so he'd absolutely do it for Doc Ock, and he'd rather sacrifice himself than let anyone else die, and these things would absolutely be even more complicated if they've gotten even slightly closer/on better terms. "Seeing enemy/antagonist hurting prompts unexpected feelings" is the one I could see working equally well for either of them, with it working for Ock especially if he's on even slightly better terms with Spider-Man, and of course Peter has come across as sympathetic to Ock and other enemies before... That said, it'd be interesting to see them get to/be at the point where maybe Ock gets hurt or in trouble protecting Spider-Man, so don't feel like you have to go with the above!

  • Falling for the Enemy - attempt at manipulation leads to feelings
  • Identity porn - only A knows their alter egos are enemies
Revisiting an idea for an earlier tag, this is a specific sub-section of slow burn for me: Maybe Otto Octavius manages to fake being cured again well enough to get out of Ravencroft, and decides it's worth looking into Spider-Man's photographer after all, and does so by offering to mentor Peter Parker in science, who agrees solely to keep an eye on Doctor Octopus, and they end up surprising themselves by bonding? These tags could also be used in other ways, however! Maybe Peter has the crazy idea to try flirting with Ock during fights to throw him off. Maybe Peter approaches Doctor Octopus purposefully, either in Ryker's or if he's pretending to be "back to normal" or redeeming himself in Ravencroft, and asks him about his former research and/or asks him for mentorship himself, either trying to see if he really is reforming or trying to stealth-encourage him to do so. Maybe there is just the identity porn of Peter meeting Dr. Octavius and striking something up and it gets deeper and Otto absolutely does not know he's Spider-Man and Peter is like OOPS. Or maybe Spider-Man straight-up pretends to join the Sinister Six and falls for Ock and/or just plain bonds with the Six in general! Go nuts with these!

  • Hurt/Comfort - Catching hurt character as they collapse
  • Hurt/Comfort - Character Doesn't Expect Tenderness But Gets It Anyway
I fuckin love H/C. For the catching tag, tbh, I was drawn to this because with Doctor Octopus's arms and Spider-Man's webshooters, this could be dramatic. So feel free to really go for it here! Does Ock use his arms to catch Spider-Man as he falls out of the air, either out of webfluid or unconscious or stunned or just not in reach of anything to grab onto? Does Spider-Man swing in and grab Ock while Ock is falling, unconscious or with nothing for his arms to latch onto to catch his own fall? That said, feel free to go for more minor versions of this, with Otto using his metal arms or real arms to catch Peter even when on the ground, or Peter catching a collapsing or falling Otto likewise. These tags are is also really good for defensiveness/protectiveness as well as H/C, and I highly prefer happy endings! And as for a character not expecting tenderness (for physical OR emotional hurt tbh), well, either of them could be caught off guard by that. What might the circumstances be, what might get them to that point, where might it lead? Is Otto being tender with Spider-Man, or with Peter Parker (who Otto may not know is Spider-Man), or is Spider-Man being tender with Doctor Octopus, or Peter (with Otto not knowing he's Spider-Man) being tender with Octopus or Octavius?

  • Slow Burn - Soulbonding is the only way for A to save seriously injured B's life
  • Soulbond - Unexpected and Unusual Soulbond Between Enemies
Very opposite soulbond tags! The first is absolutely another "PETER WOULD" tag for me, he would not even hesitate no matter the consequences, even if they aren't even slightly close! Or it could happen totally by accident, with the second one, with whatever symptoms you like! And in either case, after they soulbond, what happens? Would they try to fight it, work together to try to find a cure, just in general have to figure out ways to deal with it together because it's impossible to ignore or just push through? What's necessary with a soulbond, physical proximity, physical touching, kissing, sex? Does Otto find out Spider-Man's identity because of this? Do they eventually accept that this is a thing between them now and they have to figure out ways to work within these new rules? Why is the second tag's soulbond "unexpected and unusual"; are soulbonds between enemies supposedly impossible? Do they actually find a cure, and if the soulbond saved Otto's life, would a cure basically let them cheat death... or do they realize that a cure would mean Otto dying for real or BOTH of them dying because of the soulbond? (For either tag, I don't mind at all if there is a cure by the end, but I want their relationship to have irrevokably changed for the way more intimate even if so, and for neither of them to die.)

  • Soulmates - Both are resistant to the idea but fall in love over time
Soulmates rather than soulbonds! I love all different kinds of soulmate tropes, ones that are in the tagset and ones that aren't, so long as they aren't related to death/otherwise super angsty (like the "last words" one or "soulmates who are destined to be enemies/for one to kill the other"). Otherwise, feel free to use your favorite. (I just want to note that if you use "first words," hilariously, Otto would have "Whoa, whoa there, slinky!" and maybe "Mr. Osborn here helped save your life!" somewhere on his body and Peter would have "You!" and/or maybe "Do not insult my intelligence, hero!" somewhere on his. I bet that'd be confusing/concerning! BUT USE ANYTHING, I LOVE ALL KINDS.) Is it a type where they know the moment they meet no matter the circumstance? Is it a situation where they might not find out they met their soulmate until later but will be able to understand who it is, or if they don't find out until later will it be really hard to find out who they were? They meet when Spider-Man helps dig Otto out of the rubble after his lab accident, then Otto wakes up and lashes the fuck out at Norman Osborn and thinks Spider-Man tried to kill him! Do they realize immediately that they're meeting their soulmate in those moments or only after the situation at Oscorp is over, or even only after Otto is arrested? Is it a situation where Peter knows exactly who his soulmate is but Otto thinks his soulmate is either Spider-Man or Peter Parker and doesn't think it's both or immediately know they're the same person? How do they resist it, how long do they resist it, what's it like when they start giving in? Does it change how they fight each other or approach their run-ins in any way?

  • Unwanted Psychic Bond Leads To Teamwork
This one is just so iddy for me, holy shit. I have no idea how a psychic bond would even happen with them but it'd obviously be something neither would want! Doctor Octopus obviously wouldn't want Spider-Man to know what he's planning ahead of time, and Spider-Man would absolutely not want Ock to find out that he's Peter Parker! Maybe the psychic bond starts off weak at first and threatens to get stronger so there's a race against the clock element? Can they talk to each other telepathically, do they pick up stray thoughts, do they share dreams or start picking up on each others memories? Is the danger just secrets that they don't want to come out, or might the bond get stronger to the point that it would really fuck with both of them (like identity loss as their minds and thoughts and memories would become more entwined, coma as their minds are overloaded, anything like that)? If there's a danger I don't want it to actually get that advanced before they figure out a way to fix things, but the threat could absolutely be there and there could be some more mild unpleasantness before they fix it! But no real threat at all except having your enemy find out things you don't want them to know about you is also A++ and I love them trucing and working together to stop this thing that neither of them wants to happen... and maybe bonding over science or just coming to understand one another better with from the psychic connection or working together or both. I like the idea of them fixing it up being closer by the end of it in a way that they can't just erase... leading to shippiness, or maybe they already got there before they broke the bond.

Canon-Specific DNWs
-any of the Sinister Six and especially Doctor Octopus being presented as irredeemably crazy/evil
-honestly, any of the Sinister Six betraying each other, including them turning on Ock or Ock on them (Shocker not included; he's an Enforcer first and foremost, he was just on loan)

Canon-Specific Likes
-noncanon background pairings I actually enjoy if they happen to come up: Mysterio/Tinkerer(/Chameleon), Vulture/Electro, Sandman/Rhino
-nicknames! pet names! I like it when things someone is called in anger or to annoy them at first shift over to being totally normal and then even endearments over time, like Doctor Octopus calling Spider-Man "wall-crawler" or "web-slinger/web-spinner" or (especially!) "arachnid", or Spider-Man calling Doctor Octopus "Doc," "Ock," or "Doc Ock", but I am also super into exploring moments when maybe one calls the other by their real name, whether "Parker" or "Peter," whether "Dr. Octavius" or "Otto"; is it a threat or is it an appeal or is it intimate?
-if you're interested, I like trans headcanons for these characters! I can especially see nonbinary Doctor Octopus but trans man and trans woman both totally work for me; I especially enjoy trans woman or nonbinary Spidey but trans man is also totally acceptable. trans headcanons for any other Sinister Six if they show up are also 100% good; I would prefer Electro as a trans woman or nonbinary if you write that character as trans, but anything goes for all the rest of them! and of course trans headcanons aren't obligatory!

The Spectacular Spider-Man (Cartoon)
Quentin Beck/Phineas Mason

Canon Source:
The Spectacular Spider-Man
[Most Pertinent Episodes:
For the two together - S1E10 (Persona); S2E1 (Blueprints); S2E3 (Reinforcement)
For Phineas - S2E4 (Shear Strength); S2E9 (Probable Cause) (scene at the beginning)
For Quentin - S2E12 (Opening Night) (just for the robot reveal tbh)]

THESE TWO MAKE ME HAPPY. When we're first introduced to them they're the kinda grouchy-seeming professionals working with Chameleon and playing a dumb card-flicking game in "bisexuals can't sit normally" fashion while they wait. They're basically Chameleon's backup in that episode, and you don't get to see fully what they're like until the second season, but I really like the juxtaposition of how they are in this episode as compared to later ones! (Personally, I feel as if neither of them had their supervillain identities at all until somewhere between "Persona" and "Blueprints" when the Master Planner hired them. I also feel that they'd been working together for at least a little while before their introductory episode, though who was the first to work with who, out of the three of them, and for how long, is totally up to you. Also up to you whether they usually call each other by first name or last name, and how often they call each other by supervillain name nowadays!)

Quentin Beck used to be a special effects technician before leaving for his life of crime, and he's got a very interesting balance between his real self and the Mysterio act that I find really fun! He's a professional and Mysterio is an overly-theatrical fuckin dork, but Quentin is also deep down (and not so deep down) a theatrical dork. I can imagine that Quentin puts some of the things he wants to be into Mysterio, because that's common for supervillains and superheroes both, but Mysterio is also a role he plays for a specific purpose: misdirection, keeping people focused on him rather than his tricks or the crimes his act is distracting away from! That said, he got hired to be Mysterio for the thefts and then just decided that was fun as hell and absolutely wanted to do from then on, so there's also that element to him. I feel like he's also enjoying getting to be center stage as Mysterio in a way he doesn't get to be on jobs with Chameleon. Phineas Mason, on the other hand, is an inventor who rolls his eyes at "actors" being theatrical but is absolutely theatrical himself even if he won't admit it. I don't think he's an actor, not in the way that Chameleon and Quentin are; he was wayyy in the background in "Persona" in non-speaking roles whenever his presence was necessary out in the field, and he seems to prefer to stay back and provide "technical support" and make things for other people to use. But he obviously has fun leaning into the mad scientist supervillain act at least a little ("allow me to introduce our host and benefactor"; "welcome to your lair, Master Planner"; "all that remains is calibration... and testing") and occasionally amuses himself making dorky jokes ("put even more 'ric' in your 'ochet'"). I also imagine he has no criminal record (the arrest at the end of "Persona" didn't seem to stick and one of the cops did say in the first episode that the people Spider-Man apprehends nearly always walk...) and is staying in the background to avoid getting one for as long as possible, because him being able to work within the law is really convenient for them.

Basically, though, I love the dynamic of two characters who are just doing this shit because they love it, who've been working together a while and are developing supervillain personas kind of simultaneously mostly for the fun of it. I have a feeling Tinkerer made most of the robots and tech that Mysterio uses, though Quentin himself also contributed the "will-weaking" gas and the mask and makeup for his own android. (Which also means that the reason Quentin is just never arrested after "Persona" and it's always a goddamn android is thanks to Phineas, which makes me smile.) Phineas might not even charge him for that stuff! Just in general they're basically married and I love that.

Requested Tags

  • Case/mission fic ultimately resulting in ship’s realization of feelings for each other
  • Casefic: Undercover as a couple
  • Unrequited - Ship Falls in Love While Pining for the Same Third Party
Given how I'm pretty sure these two worked together with Chameleon for at least a while pre-canon, there's a lot of opportunity for pre-canon casefic there! What have some of their other crimes looked like? How could it have led to them realizing their feelings; did either of them wind up in danger, either of injury or death or just arrest, or was it just a case of them being really good at their jobs and the other being like "goddamn" about it? "Undercover as a couple" is always great and could be for a crime... And the first tag could even be fic that explores what's going on with/between Quentin and Phineas before/during/after certain canon missions. The burglary on the yacht went pretty wrong and they even got (temporarily) arrested, did either or both of them get really worried? Quentin showing off as Mysterio could lead to Phineas admiring him; Phineas making all this really impressive tech for Mysterio to use in "Blueprints" and "Reinforcement" could lead to Quentin admiring his work and brilliance even more; if Spider-Man left Phineas hanging halfway up the side of a building in "Shear Strength" after that combo of car crash and psychological torture, that's a great opportunity for Quentin to rescue and H/C and maybe either/both to realize feelings there! And finally... I could easily see them both pining for Chameleon while they're both working for him and then becoming more and more into each other after they meet each other.

  • Character draws negative attention onto themself to protect another
  • Character A abandons plans in order to rescue Character B
  • Character is rescued and comforted
The protectiveness and H/C tags! Honestly, Phineas is not meant to see combat or be in direct danger and Quentin is very textually aware of it ("[he's] strictly tech support, he is useless in a fight"), and a big part of Mysterio's whole role is to be a flashy distraction from what he's even really trying to accomplish. Drawing negative attention to keep it off/draw it away from Phineas is definitely in his wheelhouse. I can also easily see either of them prioritizing rescuing the other over a plan; they can always try again later. (If it wrecks one of Doctor Octopus's plans, I'd prefer it if Ock understands; I think he'd logically prefer none of the Six die and align with the "we can try again another time if we all make it out" idea. If it wrecks one of Chameleon's plans, I'd prefer he understand too and even approve. It could also be just their own damn plans ofc.) For the final tag, I can absolutely see Phineas extracting Mysterio from a bad situation or Mysterio saving Tinkerer's life, but again this could easily be set during/after "Shear Strength"; as I said before, if Spider-Man left Phineas hanging halfway up the side of the building after that combo of car crash and psychological torture, that's a great opportunity for Quentin to rescue and H/C.

  • Character takes dirty photographs or video for love interest
Quentin is really into movies and Phineas is really into tech. I was very drawn to this tag because I can see either of them doing this, especially video and especially due to Quentin's love of film! You're free to just have them be suggestive or mildly dirty, or go to full on porn; with Tinkerer involved there's even a major possibility there for sex toys, or either of them could easily fuck a robot, even one of the Mysteriobots. (You're also welcome to have either of them having sex with Chameleon and recording that, so long as all three of them are okay with it!) But even just "I'm naked/half-dressed, have a pic" maybe developing into more (dirtier photos or personal visit and smut) is totally fine and would be very hot!

  • Characters marry largely for practical and legal reasons (and are also very in love)
  • Marriage - Characters Consider Themselves Married Even if in the Eyes of the Law They're Not
I do not imagine too many of my ships as married or getting married but OH BOY this ship is one of my big exceptions! Feel free to go either way for this, either with them actually getting married (or them mutually discussing it as a thing they want to do!) or just... eventually agreeing out loud in some way that they already are or would like to consider themselves to be moving forward, or absently using married terms for one another and it feeling right. If it's the first tag, a big part of the appeal for me is that they're very in love and will happily marry but that a large part of the impetus is the legal benefits it would give them and they're also being practical about it; I can imagine Phineas working inside the law whenever he can and making it work for him as much as possible, and coming to the idea because hospital visitations and conjugal visits in prison might be a good thing to have access to, but they're also both happy with the idea of being married. Simple rings whether it's legal marriage or not totally welcome; they or anyone using the terms "husband" or "spouse" or "married" or the like welcome.

  • Competence - highly effective teamwork
  • Competence kink - different skills complementing each other
I love how well these two could work together and I love competence kink! I'm especially into how they have very different skill sets that mesh super well together. One is a makeup and special effects genius and the other is a super-advanced tech genius and together they can imitate fucking magic and dragons and demons and even fool all of the intake people and guards and doctors and so on at a high-security prison that a robot is a human being! Quentin and Phineas work great together helping out Chameleon, and Mysterio and the Tinkerer are just as great with Mysterio being the face and the flashy distraction and Tinkerer on standby to help from a distance and do extractions if need be. The ways they work together changed between when they were working with Chameleon and when they started doing supervillain stuff and that's interesting and kinda hot to me too! Explore any or all of this and I will just be so happy.

  • Costume Kink
  • Fighting - One character gets off on watching the other one fight
  • Foreplay - Kissing down partner's spine as you slide down/unzip their top
  • Hand Kink - Finger Sucking
  • Helping Someone Undress for Practicality's Sake (Mostly)
  • Kisses pressed against the back of the neck and/or along bare/mostly-bare shoulders
  • lovingly detailed blowjobs
This is a big tag cluster of hot and porn, so I will try to touch on everything very short-form. Mysterio's costume is very hot and I like Quentin having the body to pull it off (even if it's not as obvious in SSM as in the comics). I like Phineas really liking to watch Mysterio do his thing -- and tbh the idea of Phineas really liking to watch people use the suits he makes in general, like, damn :) what a good gig with great scenery benefits. I love that foreplay tag for either of them, with Quentin/Mysterio getting in and out of disguises/costume and maybe Phineas not always wearing that turtleneck... Phineas uses his hands a lot and does so brilliantly so I could see hand kink there, or tbqh finger sucking while Mysterio is wearing his gloves is VERY HOT. Again, they've both worn disguises before and Mysterio has his costume, so "mostly practical" undressing is great for them. Again, Phineas usually wears that turtleneck so maybe it's very tempting to give kisses when he's not, or maybe he's the one pressing kisses to Quentin's neck/shoulders. And I fucking love lovingly described blowjobs and I especially love it when the person giving the blowjob is also getting off on it, whichever of them it is.

  • Intimate soft make outs with one character in the other's lap
  • Sharing Clothes - A feels surge of affection or attraction at seeing B wearing A's own clothes
These are the soft tags and I love them a lot. Really just lean into the intimacy and affection with these; that is the big draw of them! I looove one character in another's lap and them making out, I don't care which way around it is, it can lead to smut or not, I just love it. As for clothes sharing, honestly, they wear disguises enough (at least working with Chameleon) that I can imagine them swapping at least a few articles of clothing after getting away from the scene of a crime just to muddy the water a little... But I also just love a character wearing their lover's clothes for whatever reason, like Quentin wearing one of Phineas's coats because it's cold or Phineas putting on some of Quentin's clothes just to wander around after sex because his are in another room or something, and the person whose clothes they're wearing just being "...♥_♥" about it. Go hard on the affection and intimacy (and maybe attraction) and I will LOVE IT.

Canon-Specific DNWs
-these two, Chameleon, or really any of the Sinister Six being presented as irredeemably crazy/evil
-honestly, any of the Sinister Six betraying each other, including them turning on Ock or Ock on them (Shocker not included; he's an Enforcer first and foremost, he was just on loan)
-public proposals

Canon-Specific Likes
-noncanon background pairings I actually enjoy if they happen to come up: Doctor Octopus/Vulture(/Electro), Sandman/Rhino, Chameleon/Jonah if you feel like it!
-I mean I requested Quentin/Chameleon/Phineas as a totally different ship but you are welcome to write the OT3 for any of these really!
-generally I like Sinister Six poly even if it's not the focus, actually, if the Sinister Six are included
-nicknames! pet names! I count Chameleon's habit of referring to literally everyone by surname as this tbh, I like that he calls these two Beck and Mason, and that they call him Chameleon as that seems to be how he wants to be known. I like Electro's habit of calling Doctor Octopus "Doc" and Vulture "Vulch"; if he shows up in the fic, maybe he calls them "Mysty" and/or "Tink"? (If so I'd rather they like it than hate it.) I would love them calling each other endearments, them calling each other by surname as well but it still being intimate, them calling each other by supervillain name (teasingly? flirtatiously?), them calling each other by their first names or even Quentin calling Phineas "Phin" is fine. I love any type of this shit.
-if you're interested, I like trans headcanons for either/both of these characters! I like the idea of Phineas as a trans man (though nonbinary or trans woman are acceptable), and I could see Quentin as anything really, and if Chameleon is included I especially like nonbinary for him. trans headcanons for any other Sinister Six if they show up are also 100% good; I would prefer Electro as a trans woman or nonbinary if you write that character as trans, but anything goes for all the rest of them! and of course trans headcanons aren't obligatory!

The Spectacular Spider-Man (Cartoon)
Quentin Beck/Chameleon/Phineas Mason

Canon Source:
The Spectacular Spider-Man
[Most Pertinent Episodes:
For all three together - S1E10 (Persona)
For Phineas and Quentin together - S2E1 (Blueprints); S2E3 (Reinforcement)
For Chameleon - S1E9 (The Uncertainty Principle) (spoilery cameo), S2E13 (Final Curtain) (final episode, obvious spoilers)
For Phineas - S2E4 (Shear Strength); S2E9 (Probable Cause) (scene at the beginning)
For Quentin - S2E12 (Opening Night) (just for the robot reveal tbh)]

SAME AS THE SECTION ABOVE WITH QUENTIN AND PHINEAS, but now Chameleon is added to the mix and I love this additional element with both of them! IMO it was absolutely brilliant for The Spectacular Spider-Man to introduce these three as a team working together; Mysterio might have hired the Chameleon once in the comics, but otherwise none of them really teamed up, but it works perfectly! The person who can disguise himself as anyone, the special effects expert, and the inventor/technological expert have a lot to offer each other, and I love that they seem to usually hire themselves out to steal shit for the rich and powerful.

Chameleon is a fascinating character to me, both in and of himself and in the dynamic with these two. He's a professional who can have a no-nonsense sort of response to things (seeing his phone call with the person who hired them to steal the symbiote, and his "I did not sign on for this" response in the finale), but who also has a mischievous sense of humor and is absolutely theatrical especially when inhabiting a role (his Spider-Man impression was really funny to me). He has his own life and isn't always working with Beck and Phineas, but given the way he talked in "Persona" I get the strong impression Beck makes his disguises, including the face masks, so I imagine they at least keep in touch often. I also feel like the three of them worked together for at least a few years before we meet them in canon, which is a dynamic I love; they'd all be very used to each other! And I enjoy the idea that when they do jobs together they split the take rather than Beck or Phineas charging Chameleon (or each other) or anything... As well as really liking the idea that even being incredibly close with the two of them it's just Chameleon's habit to call even people he loves by their surnames. I also also like how "Mason" and "Beck"'s names are first given while Chameleon is requesting their help and simultaneously praising their skills! And I just in general really love the idea of a team of criminals who work great together and highly respect one another's skills and are also all in love. (Though I also don't mind if it's a poly V so long as the center of the V is Quentin or Phineas, not Chameleon.)

I'm also fascinated by Chameleon in the sense of like... Outside of Chameleon, who is often pretending to be other people, who is he? Does he even have a legal identity outside of Chameleon, or has he erased it? Feel free to use the name Dmitri Smerdyakov for him (though I prefer he not be related to Kraven in this universe), but if you wanted to solely stick with Chameleon for him or give him a fake name like, idk, Leon Smirnov (the most common surname in Russia, basically like giving him the surname Smith) or w/e that he goes by now when necessary that is obviously not his birth name, go nuts.

Requested Tags

  • Alternate Universe - Soulmates
Honestly, I'm a big fan of soulmates when characters can and do have more than one soulmate! I didn't choose a more specific tag because I am totally up for any soulmate signs other than ones that are related to death or otherwise super angsty (like the "last words" one or "soulmates who are destined to be enemies/for one to kill the other"; none of those, please!). Otherwise, feel free to use your favorite signs and tropes! Is a type of situation where they know their whole lives that they have more than one soulmate? Or is it a surprise when one or both of them runs into the third and a new soulmate indication happens? Or do they need to interact in some specific way before they know they're soulmates, that maybe doesn't happen immediately or even for a longish while, or something about the indicator is only obvious for one or more of them later on (like, if the name Mysterio is used or if it's "significant words" and not their first ones or if it's symbols that have to do with something that's only important/applicable later)? How did they all think about the soulmate system or concept in general before meeting? Or show this established soulmate trio being in love and working super damn well together!

  • Case/mission fic ultimately resulting in ship’s realization of feelings for each other
  • Casefic: Undercover as a couple
Given how I'm pretty sure these three worked together for at least a while pre-canon, there's a lot of opportunity for pre-canon casefic there! What have some of their other crimes looked like? How could it have led to them realizing their feelings; did any of them wind up in danger, either of injury or death or just arrest, or was it just a case of them one or more of them being really good at their jobs and the other(s) being "goddamn" about it, or realizing wow we work really well together and I kind of love it and maybe you? The first tag could even be something to do with the yacht mission in canon, potentially! It went pretty wrong and they even got (temporarily) arrested (very temporarily in Chameleon's case!); did any or all of them get really worried? "Undercover as a couple" is always great and could be for a job the group takes; are they all pretending to be together or are two of them pretending? Does the third feel left out or find their act attractive (maybe even more than expected)? Do the two find the act surprisingly enjoyable/hot, and do they find themselves wishing the third could be part of it too? I'm good if this is the way all three of them work out their feelings, the way two of them work out their feelings if two of them are already together, or even if all three of them are already together but two of them are still putting on an act!

  • Character C licking A's come out of B
  • Character takes dirty photographs or video for love interest
  • Cheerful & Light-Hearted Kink Exploration
  • Double Penetration
THESE ARE JUST THE SHAMELESS PORN TAGS. The first and last are really, really hot tags for threesome sex! (DP in the same hole or different ones or spitroasting are all very acceptable; I do not mind which character is getting DP'd; I don't mind which character is which in the A, B, C prompt; the first tag can be an active threesome or it can be a scenario where B went to C after being fucked by A so long as they're all aware of it -- maybe A even told/asked B to go there? -- and find it hot.) I love the idea of dirty photos and video especially because of Quentin's love of film and movies; is one taking solo photos/vid for the other two, or are two of them fucking and recording it for the third? So long as they're all into it I love it! Finally, I just love the idea of these three cheerfully and casually exploring their kinks, especially if it winds up with one of them happily overwhelmed by the other two, but there are a lot of options here. Go nuts!

  • Characters marry largely for practical and legal reasons (and are also very in love)
  • Marriage - Characters Consider Themselves Married Even if in the Eyes of the Law They're Not
I do not imagine too many of my ships as married or getting married but OH BOY this ship is one of my big exceptions! Feel free to go either way for this, either with two of them actually getting married (or discussing it, together and/or as a trio), or just... eventually agreeing out loud in some way that they all already consider themselves married or would like to consider themselves to be moving forward, or absently using married terms for one another and it feeling right. If it's the first tag, a big part of the appeal for me is that they're very in love and will happily marry but that a large part of the impetus for an actual marriage between two of them is the legal benefits it would give them and they're also being practical about it; I can imagine Phineas working inside the law whenever he can and making it work for him as much as possible, and coming to the idea because hospital visitations and conjugal visits in prison might be a good thing to have access to, but marriage is also a nice idea. If it's just two of them getting legally married, I'd like it to be Quentin and Phineas (I imagine maybe Chameleon doesn't like being tied up in legal tape) and it'd be nice if they did all three still consider themselves to be married; if they all consider themselves married but aren't legally part of it might be because they can't all three marry each other but it also might just because they're already outside the law, why would they bother with it? Simple rings whether it's legal marriage or not totally welcome; they or anyone using the terms "husband" or "spouse" or "married" or the like welcome.

  • characters understand each other so well they barely need to speak in times of crisis
  • Competence - highly effective teamwork
  • Competence kink - different skills complementing each other
I love how well these three work together and I love competence kink! I'm especially into how they all have very different skill sets that mesh super well together. One is an expert impersonator and actor, one is a makeup and special effects genius, and the other is a super-advanced tech genius and together they can pull off amazing thefts including the most literal identity theft bullshit ever. While Chameleon was separate from them, Mysterio and the Tinkerer worked together really well too, with Mysterio being the face and the flashy distraction and Tinkerer on standby to help from a distance and do extractions if need be. The ways those two work together changed between when they were working with Chameleon and when they started doing supervillain stuff and that's interesting and kinda hot to me too; how would they work together with Chameleon back in the picture post-series, working with Mysterio and the Tinkerer and not just Quentin and Phineas? Might Phineas make Chameleon a suit too, or maybe Chameleon ends up with shapeshifting powers like in the comics somehow (maybe Miles Warren)? How has their dynamic changed and what jobs do they do; even if they need time to adjust I'd love to see how well they work together when it clicks! And as for that first one, there were definitely a few moments where they hardly had to communicate in "Persona," particularly with Quentin cuing Chameleon in on the yacht, Quentin helping Chameleon and himself make their escape, and Phineas tossing the laser disc and helping start the getaway process; I'd love to see more of that!

  • Domesticity
  • Pre-Canon - What sort of adventures did the character(s) go on before canon?
I love just in general seeing these three together. I am into early relationship stuff, them first realizing feelings and getting together, first kisses, first times having sex with any two of them and first time with all three of them, but I am also super into established relationship stuff with these three! All kinds of domesticity with this weird criminal group would be wonderful, and them doing criminal missions together while also being in love is great. Pre-canon, of course, can also be get-together stuff; either way it would be wonderful. I just want to see more of this trio doing what they do, whatever it is they do, at home or out on the job or planning the job or out on a date or shopping or w/e! Go nuts!

  • Helping Someone Undress for Practicality's Sake (Mostly)
  • Sharing Clothes - A feels surge of affection or attraction at seeing B wearing A's own clothes
  • Suit Kink
  • Undercover - Masquerade Party
Clothing kink related stuff! Could be porn, could be lower rated, I just enjoy loving focus on clothes both in the fic's narration and from the characters. They've all worn disguises before, especially Chameleon but even Phineas, and later on Mysterio has his costume, so "mostly practical" undressing is great for them. And honestly, they wear disguises enough that I can imagine them swapping at least a few articles of clothing after getting away from the scene of a crime just to muddy the water a little (especially since Chameleon can also change his face)... but I also just love a character wearing their lover's clothes for whatever reason, like a coat because it's cold or to wander around after sex because theirs are in another room or something, and the person whose clothes they're wearing just being "...♥_♥" about it. Or Chameleon could be disguised as one of them and it be REALLY hot (or sweet, if he's doing it to help or protect) to the other two. Suit kink can be nice suits if they all get dressed up, whether for a crime/disguise or for a date, or it can include things like Mysterio's costume! And as for undercover at a masquerade, well, again, good excuse for hot suits and masks; maybe this is one of their usual jobs where they're all in disguise committing a sneaky crime, or maybe Mysterio shows up as a distraction while Chameleon and Phineas do what they came in to do (or Chameleon does and Phineas is the getaway driver/fucking with the security cameras, etc.)... There's a lot you can play with for these!

  • Mutual Puning over X grows into mutual pining over each other (with happy ending)
  • Polyamory: Character A slowly discovers that they love both Character B and Character C
These last two are tags I found really intriguing for poly ship purposes! For the first, I can easily see this as a situation where the "happy ending" involves the two who are mutually pining getting each other and X, whichever one of them is X! And with the latter I don't care who's who out of Characters A, B, and C, or if none of them are together at first or if B and C are established while A falls for them both, or if A and B are established and in an open relationship and B is also with C and A falls for C as well. Go nuts with these, so long as they all end up happy!

Canon-Specific DNWs
-any of these three, or honestly any of the Sinister Six, being presented as irredeemably crazy/evil
-honestly, any of these three or any of the Sinister Six betraying each other, including them turning on Ock or Ock on them (Shocker not included; he's an Enforcer first and foremost, he was just on loan)
-public proposals

Canon-Specific Likes
-noncanon background pairings I actually enjoy if they happen to come up: Doctor Octopus/Vulture(/Electro), Sandman/Rhino
-generally I like Sinister Six poly even if it's not the focus, actually, if the Sinister Six are included
-nicknames! pet names! I count Chameleon's habit of referring to literally everyone by surname as this tbh, I like that he calls these two Beck and Mason, and that they call him Chameleon as that seems to be how he wants to be known. I like Electro's habit of calling Doctor Octopus "Doc" and Vulture "Vulch"; if he shows up in the fic, maybe he calls them "Mysty" and/or "Tink"? (If so I'd rather they like it than hate it.) I would love them calling each other endearments, them calling each other by surname as well but it still being intimate, them calling each other by supervillain name (teasingly? flirtatiously?), them calling each other by their first names or even Quentin calling Phineas "Phin" is fine. I love any type of this shit.
-if you're interested, I like trans headcanons for any/all of these characters! I like the idea of Phineas as a trans man (though nonbinary or trans woman are acceptable), and I could see Quentin as anything really, and I especially like nonbinary for Chameleon. trans headcanons for any other Sinister Six if they show up are also 100% good; I would prefer Electro as a trans woman or nonbinary if you write that character as trans, but anything goes for all the rest of them! and of course trans headcanons aren't obligatory!